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Old 01-26-2015, 06:39 AM   #6
steved0x
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Looks like you and your son had a blast out there!

In regards to your question about the TC coming on at turn exit; most (all?) car mfg's believe that understeer is safer than oversteer so reducing the power to the rear wheels is intended to keep the rear wheels from losing traction and the back end sliding. In your case, the TC is simply helping to keep the rear end behind the front end (all it takes is a slight nudge of the rear brake). If the driver really overcooks the corner, TC keeps the car manageable while the front end understeers off the track into the weeds.

The difference here is that the TC has the ability to only apply the rear brake to keep the rear end from sliding. If you as a driver were to tap the brakes in the same situation, then the weight would shift forward and the rear end would slide even more.

With that being said, your intuition is correct - if the rear end starts to slide an experienced driver would want to keep the weight on the rear (or increase it) by keeping the throttle pinned and either give it a little counter-steer or unwinding the steering a bit to open up the corner.

Eventually you'll find that you are engaging the TC on a near-continual basis and that it is actually slowing you down.

Its great that you were able to ride along with an instructor, that is always worthwhile and will help set your calibration point for what the car can really do.
For autocross I have to turn the TC off, or else it kicks on 3 or 4 times during every 60-70 second run. When it kicks in then it almost feels like the car has run out of gas.

On the track, I am much more conservative... (translate - still scared that the car is going to magically fly off the track for no reason) but I am getting better. This session, in addition to the TC going off a few times, I also very gently slid the back end around through turn 4 and turn 6. It wasn't on purpose, but it did not freak me out and I gently recovered (I can't even tell you what I did, it may have just corrected itself once I straightened out at the end of the turn) but I definitely did not lift.

We had one older 911 Targa go into the wall after turn 9, I believe he may have taken an early apex through 8/9, got onto the track out gators and then lifted which took the back end out and then put him right into the wall. Very sad.
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