[clickman]

I took my car to a local indy once, who specialized in air-cooled. One of the jobs was to change the oil. The owner, who was supposed to be the brains behind the shop, was checking my oil level with the dipstick with the engine running. I said, "Aren't you supposed to check the oil level with the engine off?". He yelled into the shop, "Hey ____, are you supposed to check the oil level in these with the engine off?" Haven't been back.