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Homeoboxter 11-27-2018 08:26 PM

Blue boxster resurrection project
 
Hey Folks,

I bought this `99 Boxster a few months ago with an engine suffering from an alleged catastrophic engine failure. I have literally zero experience with Porsches, so I thought it`s time to delve into this new challenge with the intention to fix the unsalvagable engine on my own. This is a low-budget project, and it`s not urgent as I don`t really need the car soon, in fact, I just bought it for fun. Anyway, I made some progress with the engine during which I made a bunch of pictures so I can remember where to put the parts back on. I thought I would share some of these pics in this thread and keep uploading more as the project goes on.

So, here`s the thing on the day I hauled it home:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543382203.jpg

It has a few dents and scratches here and there due to the storage. It`s been sitting in a garage for 11 years and has 100k miles in the meter.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543382258.jpg

Jacked up for engine removal:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/11543382660.jpg

To be continued..

redciv1 11-28-2018 04:24 AM

...and so it begins!!!

RedTele58 11-28-2018 08:45 AM

Cool! I'm in. Beautiful car.

Homeoboxter 11-28-2018 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedTele58 (Post 584093)
Cool! I'm in. Beautiful car.

Thanks, if you look at it from far enough it seems immaculate :) It`s a pity it got scratched and dented during storage. I plan to to something to that large dent on the right fender at least.

RedTele58 11-28-2018 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeoboxter (Post 584100)
Thanks, if you look at it from far enough it seems immaculate :) It`s a pity it got scratched and dented during storage. I plan to to something to that large dent on the right fender at least.

It's on the top of the fender behind the headlight? You'd be amazed what a good paintless dent repair guy can do. For the scratches - get on Youtube and look around at some of the detail guys - Ammo NYC particularly. He does amazing work on original paint. Check his website out for his products.

I get a lot of satisfaction from bringing a dead Boxster back to life. It might not be the cheapest thing to do, but it's a very satisfying hobby.

If you run into problems, just ask the guys here on the board. There are a lot of smart guys that really know these cars.

Burg Boxster 11-28-2018 01:19 PM

Heck I'd be tempted to give that one a try myself w/ some good spoons. You can access area pretty easily after you pop the headlight pod out. Otherwise I guarantee a good PDR guy can knock that out in a snap.

If you don't know a great PDR guy, ask for referral at a high end dealer. Better yet, let them make their $25-50 on the deal too (will help you in building some goodwill if ever needed) and have them schedule on his/her next trip thru. The quality PDR and PPF gurus have premium dealers on a weekly paper route of sorts...

Good luck :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedTele58 (Post 584116)
It's on the top of the fender behind the headlight? You'd be amazed what a good paintless dent repair guy can do.


Homeoboxter 11-28-2018 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burg Boxster (Post 584119)
Heck I'd be tempted to give that one a try myself w/ some good spoons. You can access area pretty easily after you pop the headlight pod out. Otherwise I guarantee a good PDR guy can knock that out in a snap.

If you don't know a great PDR guy, ask for referral at a high end dealer. Better yet, let them make their $25-50 on the deal too (will help you in building some goodwill if ever needed) and have them schedule on his/her next trip thru. The quality PDR and PPF gurus have premium dealers on a weekly paper route of sorts...

Good luck :)

Thanks! Just ordered a dent-pulling set from China, let`s see if I can make it worse!

Homeoboxter 11-28-2018 09:17 PM

Few more pics today. Here`s a shot of the engine. Dust everywhere, other than that everything seems to be there.

Homeoboxter 11-28-2018 09:22 PM

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543472357.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543472394.jpg

Except for this: somebody must have been here before me..
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543472491.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543472532.jpg

Homeoboxter 11-28-2018 09:36 PM

I think the Boxster served as a perfect habitat for some critters. Most likely the same thing happened to this guy:
An Opossum in the Car Engine! Possum Under the Hood

Homeoboxter 11-29-2018 10:32 PM

Behind the seat shot of the engine:


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543561151.jpg


Bumper is off, time to remove the tranny. Still nice rear end though :)


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543561321.jpg


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543561525.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543561566.jpg

Easy peasy!
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543561811.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543561851.jpg

So far so good, let`s move now to the engine. Everything looks original and unmolested, ovearall in great shape. Coolant and engine oil looked good too, considering the 11 years sitting I guess that`s a good sign.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543561994.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543562036.jpg

Homeoboxter 11-29-2018 10:34 PM

Lowering the engine:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543562393.jpg

AC pump is hanging on its hoses aside:


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543562480.jpg

Oops, this is how NOT to drop the engine!


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543562580.jpg

I missed one hose, it got stuck and pulled the motor off the lift.. Amateur sloppyness.. :mad: And now what? How to get it out from there? More tomorrow.

BOOTLEG 11-30-2018 02:37 AM

No Brother-In-Law there to watch for hoses/wires?
Mine yelled "STOP" as I was lowering my own P Motor because he saw an attached hose.
This is what it looks like with BIL assistance.http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543577832.jpg

BruceH 11-30-2018 05:29 AM

Thanks for the morning chuckles guys :D I love the BIL observer comment! This is a great thread, thanks for taking the time to post your project :cheers:

Homeoboxter 11-30-2018 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOOTLEG (Post 584262)
No Brother-In-Law there to watch for hoses/wires?
Mine yelled "STOP" as I was lowering my own P Motor because he saw an attached hose.
This is what it looks like with BIL assistance.http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543577832.jpg

No BIL here, but I`ll definitely get one next time! Apparently he also helps Boxster engines reproduce :)

BOOTLEG 11-30-2018 07:41 AM

some like women, he likes Boxsters. Claims he doesn't have to buy them dinner

Homeoboxter 11-30-2018 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceH (Post 584268)
Thanks for the morning chuckles guys :D I love the BIL observer comment! This is a great thread, thanks for taking the time to post your project :cheers:

Welcome to the thread, I`m glad you are enjoying it! I love to read similar posts and it`s not much effort to upload a few pics every day.

Homeoboxter 11-30-2018 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOOTLEG (Post 584282)
some like women, he likes Boxsters. Claims he doesn't have to buy them dinner

Fair point! However, feeding these cars with parts seems to be pricey too..

Homeoboxter 12-01-2018 07:57 AM

Fallen-off engine shot from engine compartment:


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1543681826.jpg


Pulling it up using an engine hoist:


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/21543682010.jpg


Rolling out on a furniture dolly:


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/1001543682481.jpg

Finally inside the garage:




http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/1011543683359.jpg
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Homeoboxter 12-01-2018 08:24 AM

Clutch off:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/1051543684571.jpg

Rivets were running on the pressure plate. Perhaps still the original clutch set?

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/41543684258.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/51543684281.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/61543684305.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/1061543684732.jpg

RMS leak, or both RMS&IMS?

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/71543684348.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/81543684381.jpg

Homeoboxter 12-02-2018 07:37 PM

Here`s a little more progress today on stripping the engine.
Mating engine with stand:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/91543811119.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/111543811185.jpg

Opossum-damage, close-ups:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/121543811259.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/131543811279.jpg

Thick oil-mud on the heads:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/141543811385.jpg

Sophisticated method to prevent steering pump shaft from spinning:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/151543811516.jpg

Stripped:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/161543811658.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/171543811754.jpg

We`ll take a peek into the engine next time.

Homeoboxter 12-06-2018 09:35 PM

Sump off. Looks clean, no sludge or metal debris. Except for those green and brown plastic fragments..

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/181544162739.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/191544162793.jpg

Inside everything seems intact so far.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/201544162932.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/211544163083.jpg

Let`s approach now from the heads. Cylinder 4-6 first.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/221544163204.jpg

Scavanging pump off:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/231544163281.jpg

Head cover off. Something seems missing from there. Perhaps the origin of the plastic debris in the oil pan?

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/241544163330.jpg

Not much left. The middle part, the actual rail is completely gone.
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/251544163435.jpg

After the plastic chain guide completely had given up the chain was running on the steel bracket. May have been producing an awful sound though..

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/261544163480.jpg

Homeoboxter 12-06-2018 09:42 PM

Lifters, cylinder head, liners all look fine:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/271544164709.jpg


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/281544164738.jpg


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/291544164772.jpg

Ottomotion 12-07-2018 09:48 AM

Looks like we are tackling similar projects...I posted mine up on the General Discussion forum. Mine is a 3 chain 03 motor though.
Just got my drivers side head back on and after the cams are back in and i button that side up, I plan on tearing down the other side.
Where in N. Cal are you?

Homeoboxter 12-07-2018 03:12 PM

Hey, I`m located close to San Jose. Are you nearby?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ottomotion (Post 584857)
Looks like we are tackling similar projects...I posted mine up on the General Discussion forum. Mine is a 3 chain 03 motor though.
Just got my drivers side head back on and after the cams are back in and i button that side up, I plan on tearing down the other side.
Where in N. Cal are you?


Homeoboxter 12-07-2018 08:56 PM

Few more pics for today. Taking off the oil pump cover:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/301544247220.jpg

Pump is in decent condition.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/311544247262.jpg

So is this chain guide.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/321544247296.jpg

Let`s move to head 1-2-3.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/331544247329.jpg

Oops, what`s left of this chain guide does not seem as good as the long rail. Actually, it came all the way from the other side.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/341544247356.jpg

Another piece landed here:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/351544247388.jpg

The chain guide for head 1-2-3 is intact.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1544248223.jpg

Getting the head off.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/371544247416.jpg

Here we go.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/381544247445.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/391544247472.jpg

Homeoboxter 12-07-2018 09:01 PM

This is a bit kind of puzzling: the valves were hitting the pistons, but not on the side where the chain guide was totally missing so the timing was off but on the other side (1-2-3).

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1544248713.jpg

What I can think of is that the chain guard got chewed up by the timing chain resulting in jumping a tooth? What an unfortunate coincidence...

Ottomotion 12-08-2018 06:45 AM

Fresno.
Keep it up. Its nice to see someone else attempting this same task at the same time.

So if I am seeing and reading correctly, your chain guide/tensioner failed and your chain was riding on metal?
Interesting fail....My car has just over 100K on the clock and the pads look like new....
Now the valve spring and lifter for #5 intake...thats a different story.

Homeoboxter 12-08-2018 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ottomotion (Post 584923)
Fresno.
Keep it up. Its nice to see someone else attempting this same task at the same time.

So if I am seeing and reading correctly, your chain guide/tensioner failed and your chain was riding on metal?
Interesting fail....My car has just over 100K on the clock and the pads look like new....
Now the valve spring and lifter for #5 intake...thats a different story.

Hey, I`ll upload new pics soon. Fresno is not so far away from here, we should meet up once both cars run again :)

As for the engine, indeed, the primary reason for the engine failure was the excessive wear and subsequent detachment of the chain guard. I think the chain picked up a piece of the guard on the opposite side and somehow made the timing to jump. Otherwise I can`t explain why the timing was messed up and the valves touched the pistons. Failing of these guards is frequent in these engines, yours may have been replaced earlier, or the 3-chain engines have a different design? BTW, my car has 100K miles in it and I don`t think it has been taken apart.

Homeoboxter 12-10-2018 10:09 PM

I was gonna stop with the teardown at this point, since i found the culprit for the engine failure and I thought after rebuilding the heads and the timing everything can go back on and the engine is ready to go. Yet, I thought it would be a mistake to reassemble the motor without knowing what the piston rings and rod bearings look like, especially because the valves were touching the pistons. So I decided to go more deeply into the engine if I got this far. First, I removed the IMS cover:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/411544510885.jpg

This is still the original dual-row bearing, the original grease has long been replaced to engine oil that`s flowing out from the IMS cavity. The bearing looks in great condition though.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/421544510939.jpg

Splitting the cases after removing a bucket of nuts and bolts:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/431544511246.jpg

Apart:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/441544511270.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/451544511290.jpg
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I think it was a good idea to remove the pistons: the rings are stuck into their grooves with gunk. Oil change wasn`t a too frequent practice here. I don`t think those rings were sealing too well..

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/491544511374.jpg

This chain guide is badly worn too. Seems a bit undersized for this job. Note that the four other rails for the timing chains were in perfect condition.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/511544511389.jpg

Homeoboxter 12-10-2018 10:10 PM

Bearings and bearing journals show no wear:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/521544512037.jpg

Ottomotion 12-11-2018 06:52 PM

Damn possum did more damage than the chain pad letting go....
Does most look savable? Did it bend valves?

Homeoboxter 12-12-2018 08:41 AM

At least the car was used for something for 11 years :) All look salvagable, I`ll only need a few things, like the variocam actuator, pads, new IMSB, etc.. The valves don`t seem to be bent, that is a bit surprising. I think after some lapping they can be reused.

nes
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ottomotion (Post 585130)
Damn possum did more damage than the chain pad letting go....
Does most look savable? Did it bend valves?


Homeoboxter 12-13-2018 07:02 AM

Cracked rod design:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/531544716581.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/541544716606.jpg

Camshaft actuator-damage:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/551544716627.jpg

Side-by-side:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/661544716662.jpg

This pad remained in one piece but was very close to its end:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/641544716803.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/651544716822.jpg

Racer Boy 12-13-2018 08:12 AM

Thanks for posting the pictures, I'm enjoying following your progress!

What mid-70's bike is that in the background?

Homeoboxter 12-13-2018 09:58 AM

Hi, I`m glad you like the post! That`s a `73 TX750 Yamaha, my other project, been restoring it for about 3 years. It developed an oil leak somewhere that I`m trying to spot, that`s why it`s sitting now on the table. Here`s another pic:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer Boy (Post 585217)
Thanks for posting the pictures, I'm enjoying following your progress!

What mid-70's bike is that in the background?

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/tx21544727510.jpg

Homeoboxter 12-13-2018 10:06 PM

Little more progress today with IMS bearing removal with a blind hole bearing puller:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/591544770909.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/601544770948.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/611544770970.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/621544771009.jpg

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Ottomotion 12-14-2018 07:03 AM

Cool. I have not seen one of those before. Looks like a perfect alternative to the specialized tools. Very resourceful....

Homeoboxter 12-14-2018 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ottomotion (Post 585274)
Cool. I have not seen one of those before. Looks like a perfect alternative to the specialized tools. Very resourceful....

Yeah, it`s a complete set with 11 different sizes of pullers and a slide hammer, for $55 it`s a pretty good deal and you can use it for many other tasks. I had to modify one of the pullers to fit the IMS bearing though.

Homeoboxter 12-15-2018 09:02 AM

Made some progress with parts cleaning.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/691544896638.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/681544896659.jpg

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