LA Auto Show Porsche 991

[papasmurf]

you can see the added length/wheelbase in the rear of the car....can't say I like it. Hard to put your finger on it, but there is something "aston" looking about the rear of the car....the hips are just not as attractive as the 993 and 997's. Does the new carrera S have a wider body over the base carrera like the 997 series?

[ddb]

Originally Posted by papasmurf

Does the new carrera S have a wider body over the base carrera like the 997 series?

I don't know about a wider body on the 991.

I knew there was a wider body for the 997, but I thought you had to get a 4 or 4S (all wheel drive) to get it.

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by ddb

I don't know about a wider body on the 991.

I knew there was a wider body for the 997, but I thought you had to get a 4 or 4S (all wheel drive) to get it.

In the 997, the Carrera has the narrowest body. The CS and C4 have the same body, and the C4S is wider still. Not sure where the turbo and GTs fit into the mix.

The ironic thing to me is that in the day, the 928 was considered a Luxurious GT but if you jump directly from a 928 to a 997 (with sport chrono plus I might add), the 928 (at least the 5-speed stick S4 version) feels more raw and connected. The 991 is supposed to be even more numbed from the articles coming out now in Car&Driver and Road&Track. It's too bad, but it's what the market demands if Porsche is to sell more and more 911s every year. Instead of replacing the 911 with the 928, as was the plan, the 911 has just become the 928.

[ddb]

Originally Posted by blue2000s

In the 997, the Carrera has the narrowest body. The CS and C4 have the same body, and the C4S is wider still. Not sure where the turbo and GTs fit into the mix.

Instead of replacing the 911 with the 928, as was the plan, the 911 has just become the 928.

I think you could put the current flat 6 engine, Porsche V8, or V6 in the front of the 991 and basically have a 928 (water cooled, front engine, GT layout). True Porschefiles may have a problem with calling it a 911, but as long as it had the 911 name and general shape, the general buying public wouldn't care.

I just looked on the Porsche website and they list the 991 Carrera and Carrera S as the same width. These are the only two variants currently listed.

Oddly enough, in the 997 series, the website lists the Carrera Cabriolet, Carrera S Cabriolet, Carrera 4 Cabriolet, and Carrera 4S Cabriolet all having the same width. According to their website specifications, you need a Carrera GTS Cabriolet to get a wider body, which they list as equal in width to the Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Turbo Cabriolet, & Turbo S Cabriolet.

I've read conflicting information on the widths elsewhere, so I'm confused.

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by ddb

I think you could put the current flat 6 engine, Porsche V8, or V6 in the front of the 991 and basically have a 928 (water cooled, front engine, GT layout). True Porschefiles may have a problem with calling it a 911, but as long as it had the 911 name and general shape, the general buying public wouldn't care.

I just looked on the Porsche website and they list the 991 Carrera and Carrera S as the same width. These are the only two variants currently listed.

Oddly enough, in the 997 series, the website lists the Carrera Cabriolet, Carrera S Cabriolet, Carrera 4 Cabriolet, and Carrera 4S Cabriolet all having the same width. According to their website specifications, you need a Carrera GTS Cabriolet to get a wider body, which they list as equal in width to the Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Turbo Cabriolet, & Turbo S Cabriolet.

I've read conflicting information on the widths elsewhere, so I'm confused.

You can see the difference by looking at the cars themselves. The tail lights are the same part and spacing for all cars. They are flush with the side of a standard Carrera. On the wider cars, the fenders bulge from the tail lights so they are not flush.

This is the best picture I could find to show the bulge. It's a flat spot in the bumper along the outer edge of the tail light.

http://www.ausmotive.com/images/Porsche-911-Sport-Classic-05.jpg

[ddb]

blue,

I love that car in your link! I've just seen some other examples online from straight behind and you can indeed see the difference with the tail light being flush with the sides on a narrow body versus not being flush with the wide body.

Look at the width specifications from a 997.2 owner's manual. It is totally different from what's listed on the Porsche website.

ddb

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by ddb

blue,

I love that car in your link! I've just seen some other examples online from straight behind and you can indeed see the difference with the tail light being flush with the sides on a narrow body versus not being flush with the wide body.

Look at the width specifications from a 997.2 owner's manual. It is totally different from what's listed on the Porsche website.

ddb

That's not right either, because if you go and look at a C4 and a C4S, they are clearly different from each other.