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Old 12-16-2006, 08:53 PM   #1
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Oh what a pain....I wrote you a reply & poof..gone!

Well, I'm too pooped to re-write the paragraphs that I wrote to you in response. But in a few words..... I would be happy with modest gains! That's fine with me.

So, in short, it's always good to be a wise and saavy consumer. Do your homework, find out what your needs are, make a decision and stick with it!
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:19 PM   #2
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dcporsche99: Great to hear you got the headers on, the headers are actually fairly easy to remove on our vehicles. Hondas and Toyotas are much harder, so feel graced that atleast something on our vehicles are easy to get to.


I too am making vidoes of stock exhaust being revved to 3-4k rpm and the headers and exhaust being revved to 3-4k rpm. There is a big difference not only in pull of engine while under load and also the sound.

But as for your comment on using a torque wrench. Never EVER use it to unbolt or as a regular wrench, depending on the torque wrench you have (the most common are the springs sprung inside ones) it messes up the reading of the torque. Also don't drop those tools, their calibrations for torque measurements can be misaligned resulting in you purchasing a new one.

Have fun driving the baby around, im sure you'd be happy with the results.
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Old 12-16-2006, 10:00 PM   #3
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A few silly notes to self...

If I were to do this install again...I would:
(1) Buy a jack (a race jack preferably) that not only carries three tons, but does not feel like it weighs and manuevers as if it weighed three tons,
(2) Take the wheels off when I jack up the car (rear),
(3) Spray the header bolts and studs liberally with PB Blaster for 2-3 days ahead of time,
(4) Have a shorter breaker bar (approx. 14") in length,
(5) Be more patient and calm, especially in the beginning when the adrenaline is pumping...more likely to break or snap the darn bolts and studs off,
(6) Have a creeper (my back and the back of my skull were killing me after this install),
(7) Have a real light, not a freakin' ghetto flashlight (yeah, I have learned),
(8) Take off the plastic support in the middle of the car rather than letting it hang and hit me in the face numerous times before I decided to take it off.....it just had one screw....geez...talk about lazy....,
(9) Make certain that when the ratchet is turning, it's not because the head of the bolt is broken....though funny, please make sure that when you are removing these bolts....take your time and keep a steady hand. For whatever reason, I found these bolts to be sensitive. Not too much brute force. With a breaker bar connected to the end of your ratchet, turn it slowly at first (in the correct direction) until you hear a slightly high-pitched"click"....this was consistent for each bolt when loosened. Different from when the bolt broke, sounded more like a "crap, it broke",
(10) Make certain that when you are dislodging the headers, pull toward the front of the vehicle in an upward fashion and then down at the cat end...be careful as this is where elbows and forearms can easily get scraped,
(11) When installing the headers, especially on the passengers side, the header part facing the front end of the car should go in first, ...don't forget the first bolt to the header here (deep 13mm socket w/ long extension to help bolt go in) and then second either at the other end or somewhere in the middle just to keep it from falling,...tighten two ends first to make sure of appropriate gasket fitment,
(12) When putting on the new bolts with anti-seize, make sure to tighten in the same fashion....take your time and make sure the ratchet isn't bouncing around...this can break the bolt or cause you to have to re-thread the block or have the shop do it (not good),
(13) If no bolts or studs are broken then tighten remaining bolts to appropriate torque wrench setting (double-check this for your vehicle) or if you have broken bolts or studs go to your trusted shop and have them do it after they fix any leaks from broken bolts and/or studs (preferably replace with OEM products)
(14) OR better yet, if the bolts or studs are broken, set a propane torch to it while holding it down with vise grips...be careful as these suckers get ridiculously hotttttttttt...as Ohio said, they will easily come out ....I will practice this one time Ohio, if not on this install, then probably for my new exhaust and cats!!LOL, can't stop laughing!! How's this? Thanks!

***don't forget to insert all the advice from the guys that made it happen in the first place**

etc.... (BTW, thanks to you too MNBoxster - Jim '99 - your initial post was on the lost thread as well. I appreciated your advice then too! I didn't forget!)

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Old 12-16-2006, 10:05 PM   #4
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Hey kt1,

Yeah, thanks for the info!! All great advice! I was pretty happy that I didn't have to remove the entire exhaust assembly. I was dreading that possibility on the passenger's side when I couldn't get that last nut off. I really appreciated your input then...boy, did I ever!
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Old 12-16-2006, 10:32 PM   #5
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No problem man, that's what this board's all about (and my only short time here).

Now get off your computer, get that broken bolt fixed, and go enjoy the boxster!
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:10 AM   #6
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That big list still didnt say anything about heat. Generally anytime you mess around with exhaust bolts you need heat. I know you dont want to blow up but just a thought. You will never see an exhaust shop say "Hey bring that car in for 3 days I need to let the bolts soak" Lol
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Old 12-17-2006, 06:02 AM   #7
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Lol!!!!!!

That big list still didnt say anything about heat. Generally anytime you mess around with exhaust bolts you need heat. I know you dont want to blow up but just a thought. You will never see an exhaust shop say "Hey bring that car in for 3 days I need to let the bolts soak" Lol


That's freakin' hilarious...great point!!! LOLOLOL!!!! Let me edit that list. Actually, as I sit and wait for the wrap for the AC line, I am still feeling the guilt of not finishing it myself. :chicken:

But yeah, ...like I said in the lost thread...I was totally inspired by some of the threads, especially your supercharger install! That was very cool!! This is probably meant for another thread,......but that install would be on my "dare to do" list
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Old 12-17-2006, 06:15 AM   #8
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Now get off your computer, get that broken bolt fixed, and go enjoy the boxster!

Yeah, I know.............but I have to wait for the freakin' wrap! I know you will believe me when I say I can't sit still :dance: thinking about it!!!!!!!!I have to be just a LITTLE BIT more patient
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