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TriGem2k 09-13-2006 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNBoxster

I'm glad you're a Cancer Survivor, but I still think you're a jerk...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99


Hahahhaha....MN you kill me sometimes. Say it like it brother say it like it is.

der Geist 09-13-2006 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MNBoxster
Hi,

I don't post to this thread for a week (because I said all I had to say and the Lister contacted Rich about sponsorship) and you decide to take a swing at me from left field, not in reply to any specific post by me but just to Showboat and Grandstand and I have no sense of humor..?? I guess not.

I'm glad you're a Cancer Survivor, but I still think you're a jerk...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

I'd hardly call that a swing. Maybe a tap. You are pretty sensitive considering the posts you have made on this subject.

At least I don't have to resort to name calling. Pretty immature.

denverpete 09-15-2006 07:20 AM

What up with this? I have to admit I'm a little disappointed. I mean, where's the "I'm rubber you're glue" or "Sticks and Stones" post?

DAAM421 09-16-2006 04:23 AM

Here Is The Pics Of Cat Back From Che
 
IT WENT ON EASY, sounds great , just as good if not better than those 1000. 1600 dollar cat backs SOUND FILES TO COME SOON :cheers:

threpwood 09-16-2006 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DAAM421
IT WENT ON EASY, sounds great , just as good if not better than those 1000. 1600 dollar cat backs SOUND FILES TO COME SOON :cheers:

Right...
Do you have dyno charts?

RandallNeighbour 09-19-2006 09:34 AM

DAAM421, what year is your boxster?

RandallNeighbour 09-19-2006 09:47 AM

Update: Talked to Che today on the phone. He wanted to know which kind of finish I preferred on the twin tips of the exhaust. The parts ship today and I will have them tomorrow or Thursday at the latest.

When they come in I will unpack them, photograph them and post the pix for you all so you can chronicle this offer and the fitment, finish, etc.

DAAM421 09-19-2006 10:02 AM

Re Randal
 
my car is a 2003 ! i know i still have to put up sound file . i have the burnt tips



Quote:

Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour
Update: Talked to Che today on the phone. He




wanted to know which kind of finish I preferred on the twin tips of the exhaust. The parts ship today and I will have them tomorrow or Thursday at the latest.

When they come in I will unpack them, photograph them and post the pix for you all so you can chronicle this offer and the fitment, finish, etc.


Dr. Kill 09-19-2006 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by der Geist
You're comparing this to a phishing attack???? Seriously???? For REAL????

You must be joking. Did you fail to notice that this guy came in with verifiable references? You are not even giving him a chance to prove himself before you are convicting him of being a scam artist. With all due respect your profile says you are an auditor and I really don't think you are qualified to be critisizing anyone in the marketing approach of a small business. The first thing the SBA teaches you is big DOES NOT = small. This is ridiculous.

No, I am not convicting him and I am not comparing this to Phishing attack. I am merely pointing out that people may not be 100% open to an offer like this because of the way it was presented.

On a side note, I do appreciate you letting me know that you do not think I am qualified to market a small business idea. I will be sure to tell my business partner about your concerns. ;)

kingsilver 09-20-2006 09:50 AM

Dfw
 
delubozparts,

I noticed you are in the DFW area, do you have a shop/warehouse that I could come by and visit?

RandallNeighbour 09-20-2006 10:07 AM

I received the headers and exhaust as expected this afternoon via UPS. The exhaust looks simply fabulous, and I can carry it around in one hand. I'm betting it's half the weight of the stock exhaust.

Headers look nice too... well made and lightweight. I've not lifted my factory headers that are on the car now, so I don't know what weight savings I will pick up there, but it also has to be sizeable when compared to the weight of the stock headers.

I have an appointment with the dyno/installer tomorrow at 9 am here in Houston. If all goes well, and there are no installation issues that drag it out more than a few hours, I will be sending my dyno reports and installation info to Che tomorrow night.

Wish me luck... I'm going in!

Dr. Kill 09-20-2006 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour
Wish me luck... I'm going in!

Good luck sir. It sounds promising.

MNBoxster 09-20-2006 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour
Wish me luck... I'm going in!

Hi,

Good Luck! Fingers crossed... ;)

Happy Motoring!... Jim''99

ohioboxster 09-20-2006 02:06 PM

Randall,
I dont think your going to need luck. Its just an exhaust, not minimizing you exhaust I would be excited! Whats the worst that could happen? Low dyno numbers a broken bolt, big deal. I think your going to love it, when you do I want a sound clip. If it sounds good I will strongly consider the muffler system.

CJ_Boxster 09-20-2006 02:23 PM

cant wait to hear the results.

RandallNeighbour 09-21-2006 11:06 AM

Prelim results are good, fellow boxster owners. Quality of product is high, and dyno results are showing HP and Torque gains after the headers have been added... muffler goes on now and then a final dyno will be performed.

RandallNeighbour 09-21-2006 02:48 PM

Final Results
 
I am just back from the shop having Che's headers and sport exhaust installed and dyno results between the installs. Here's the details:

Are these parts cheap or good?
The quality of the parts is very high from what I could tell, but I don't examine exhaust systems for a living so I could not really be very discriminating. However, the mechanic and the shop owner stated that they thought the parts looked very well made and were impressed with the price I would have paid on Ebay for them. The parts are mandrel bent and TIG welded, and far, far lighter than OEM equipment.

Installation
The headers bolted on directly on my 97 Boxster without any modifications. There is an AC line that was zip tied off to keep it from touching the header, and it was wrapped with heat tape to keep it from melting. I am planning on buying some asbestos heat wrap stuff a friend told me about and put it around this AC line just to make sure it doesn't get too hot.

The muffler installed easily, but the holes in the bracket were a bit too far away from the center for the setup on my model year Boxster. The mechanic simply drilled a couple of new holes in the bracket and bolted it on. (I spoke to Che about this and he is going to have additional holes drilled in the bracket so it will fit any model year 986 in case you are interested in getting one some day).

Sound
I must say that I can now hear my engine's exhaust very very clearly, even with the top up or down and the stereo at full blast! It has a lovely rumble at idle, and is loudest between 2k and 3k, providing a little resonance at this RPM. It sounds like music to my ears though, but some may find this muffer a little too loud for a daily driver... I noticed people around me in medium traffic looked over when I moved through the loudest RPM range. I will post a sound clip soon.

Performance
My greatest concern with adding aftermarket headers was the potential for a gain of power in the higher RPM's at the expense of some power at the lower RPM's, which did not happen with this header or exhaust. In fact, there was an overall HP and Torque gain across the RPM range. Results are as follows:

Base WHP: 169.27 With Headers: 179.27 With Headers & Muffler: 184.24

Base Torque: 147.91 With Headers: 165.85 With Headers & Muffler: 165.92

So, by swapping out the headers and the muffler, I gained almost 15 HP and 18 pounds of torque. The "butt dyno" feels it a little, but the ears hear the rumble far more.

Che, I know you appreciate the review of your parts, but I must thank you for the exhaust, headers, and the additional free gift of the short shift kit I received today. You are quite generous, and you followed through on every single thing you said you would do, and were very available to talk on the phone numerous times. In a world of internet theives and scammers, you have shown me you are a good businessman with strong ethics.

ohioboxster 09-21-2006 03:25 PM

Sweet! I need a sound clip! I hope you took a sound sample with each item istalled. I just want a muffler because Im not unbolting my SC unit dammit, unless its too irrestible! Clip, clip,clip!!!!

NickCats 09-21-2006 03:36 PM

RandallNeighbour,

Great write up ! How about some pictures of the Exhaust ?

So, $1000 for 15 HP ?

ohioboxster 09-21-2006 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NickCats
RandallNeighbour,

Great write up ! How about some pictures of the Exhaust ?

So, $1000 for 15 HP ?

Dont forget about sound! Thats more important than 15 hp


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