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Old 06-29-2006, 10:47 AM   #1
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intermediate shaft seal and cover

OK guys, I'm deep into the RMS removal and replacement (R&R). The seal has been fairly straightforward w/ no issues - you can see it installed in the pic. After I get this finished, I'll post a more complete story and pic history. However, for now I have a more pressing issue/problem.

The Bentley svc manual only recommends R&R of the 3 bolts on the intermediate shaft cover. But my internet research clearly shows that the recommended preventative measure is to replace the original cover a newer version which has an updated seal design. Upon this recommendation, I pulled the cover. Here's where the problem began - w/ the cover removed, the shaft had nothing to keep it centered in the opening. I am completely surprised, given all the wonderful engineering of the Boxster, that Porsche has done such a poor job of supporting the tail-end of both the crankshaft and the intermediate shaft and thus creating these leak issues. Oh well.... Anyway, the shaft shifted off-center in the opening, apparently under the chain tensioner's loads (see attached pic). Without the shaft being centered in the opening, there is no way to re-install the cover. I've loosened the chain tensioners, which offer no help. The Bentley svc manual doesn't address this issue and I can't find any info on the internet. Can any of you offer experience/insite? Thx.
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Old 06-29-2006, 10:55 AM   #2
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I'm WAY out of my league here, but my understanding is that there is some sort of centering tool. I remember seeing a picture of one but I don't recall where. I''ll post if I find it. I'm sure the big guns will be here soon to help you out.

http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=5306&hl
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Old 06-29-2006, 11:00 AM   #3
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Maybe this will help:

http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/996rms/rms1.php
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Old 06-29-2006, 06:37 PM   #4
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Thanks 98boxster98. Actually the c-speedracing link is a great documentation of the rms job. However, it doesn't address the problem I encountered. As it turns out, it was a very simple fix once the idea was planted and I felt comfortable "stretching" the chain(s). Another respondee on renntech put me on the idea. There's a good thread there on rms R&R including the intermediate shaft cover/seal issue. The thread ends w/ my question and a response which ended up solving my problem. Actually, a 1/2" drive 9/16 socket fits well in the bearing. By doing so, I was able to exert pressure to center the shaft. Gave enough confidence and experience on the force required I was able to use the new cover, nut, and a large pair of channel locks to pull everything in place. Once centered, I used the retaining nut on the bearing shaft stud to press/pull the cover into the opening perfectly. 3 new bolts and I was good to proceed w/ the rest of the reinstall. Here's the link:
http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15&hl=rms&st=20
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Old 06-29-2006, 07:10 PM   #5
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Hi Rod. I saw that Loren at Renntech provided an answer earlier today and I knew you were in good hands. Gotta admire a man who tackles his own RMS fix.
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Old 06-29-2006, 08:23 PM   #6
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Hi,

I hope you inset the RMS the proper distance. OEM is inset 11mm, but Porsche states to inset replacement seal 13mm to have the lip ride on a virgin, unblemished section of the Crankshaft. Failure to follow this could lead to early failure on the replacement. Don't remember if this is mentioned in the Bentley. Hope this helps...

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Old 06-30-2006, 05:03 AM   #7
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seal inset

Yes, I set it @ 13 mm. Although there was no "feel" of a groove, there was a definite visible mark. Thanks for the reminder though MN. BTW, I used the new "Cayenne" style RMS.
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Old 07-20-2006, 10:56 AM   #8
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Thumbs up rms cost

I'll post pics of the RMS r&r (removal and replacement) sometime next week. Until then, I just wanted to give you a quick heads up on the cost. Total cost, including changing the oil (synthetic and OE filter): <$150.00 US

Parts:
gen4 Cayenne style RMS
intermediate shaft cover
4 block bolts
3 intermediate shaft bolts
8 flexplate bolts
8 qts Mobil1
1 Porsche OE filter

My labor was free

Back on the road leak-free
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