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Chris C Atlanta 04-19-2006 06:57 PM

I have champion monolites (RS97)in 19" and they are lighter than most 18s (20/21 lbs in 8/9.5")

Finallygottaporsche 04-19-2006 08:36 PM

986 Jim is totally right on this one. anyone who disagrees can buy heavy wheels and pretend that their car doesnt drive like crap. cars like miatas, elises, boxsters are designed with minimal unsprung weight.

the car will be slower and not handle as nimbly. imagine running with ankle weights on.

BuffaloBoxster 04-20-2006 05:16 AM

Turst me you will notice the difference in a heavy wheel compared to a light wheel. I learned that lesson the hard way on my Acura RSX.

Don' buy rims for looks and expect better performance. You're only going to get better performance from a lighter or wider rim.

If you go wider but not lighter, acceleration will be negatively impacted while your car may have more stick in the corners.

Something to think about.

And as regard the ride, a shorter sidewall (say 18" vs 19" rim) is always going to be stiffer and this worse in ride quality.

KronixSpeed 04-20-2006 07:25 AM

Well Obviously
 
Weight is obviously a concern, but none of you answered the question, and probably just doesnt cut it.......... "So what about in my case? If I, with the optional 19" carrera classic wheels, raced and identical 987, only with the standard 17" wheels, they would out accelerate me?" this is what we are talking about. if the weight stays the same (17 inch rim weighting 21 pounds and a 19 inch rim weightin 21 pounds) the car should not lack performance. wider tires that come on a 19 inch rim should give better handling. i have 19s with a 275 rubber on the back and let me tell you the car has not lost any performance. now if we are tracking the car, then yes 19s are just dumb.

smith12895 04-20-2006 08:32 AM

Are the carrera classic 19" and the standard Boxster II 17" wheels the same weight? Where can I find the actual weights of Porsche wheels? I have found a few threads and websites with some, but not an up-to-date comprehensive list.

SD987 04-20-2006 08:54 AM

Standard 987 17" wheels are 18 - 6 (18lbs 6 oz) on the front, 19 - 13 on the rear.

Standard 987 18" S wheels are 21 - 11 and 22 - 14.

Your 19" Carrera Classics are 23 - 10 and 26 - 8.

smith12895 04-20-2006 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD987
Standard 987 17" wheels are 18 - 6 (18lbs 6 oz) on the front, 19 - 13 on the rear.

Standard 987 18" S wheels are 21 - 11 and 22 - 14.

Your 19" Carrera Classics are 23 - 10 and 26 - 8.


Thanks for the info! :cheers:

KronixSpeed 04-20-2006 02:02 PM

nice
 
okay lets just say (because my rear stock is probably heavier then these stats)my rear is 22.7lbs and my front is 20.3 and my 19z inch rims
are 1 pound heavier which is the case...my rear is about 23-4 pounds.....do you really think that my car is slower then a stock car sitting on 17z.....are u kindding me....we need someone with experience......not someone who post, just to pass brucelee who comments on anything and everything.........

Porsche Boxter Cast 17x7 20.3
Porsche Boxter Cast 17x8.5 22.7

seeeu

RandallNeighbour 04-21-2006 06:04 AM

Kronix, BruceLee (Richard) OWNS this web site. He gets to post as much as he likes, on any topic he likes.

Open mouth, remove foot.

KronixSpeed 04-24-2006 10:37 AM

foot never in mouth!!
 
lol...that explains alot.....not the first time i have commented on mr. bruce lee. i think he's a smart guy and can handle the criticism i bring his way.

foot never in mouth,

try again.

mjw930 04-24-2006 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KronixSpeed
okay lets just say (because my rear stock is probably heavier then these stats)my rear is 22.7lbs and my front is 20.3 and my 19z inch rims
are 1 pound heavier which is the case...my rear is about 23-4 pounds.....do you really think that my car is slower then a stock car sitting on 17z.....are u kindding me....we need someone with experience......not someone who post, just to pass brucelee who comments on anything and everything.........

Porsche Boxter Cast 17x7 20.3
Porsche Boxter Cast 17x8.5 22.7

seeeu

Gee, I don't know if I have enough experience to comment and I'm not about to post my Curriculum Vitae but I'll reiterate the comments I've already made in this thread. Lighter unsprung weight allows more power to be used accelerating the car rather than the wheels/tires. It's simple physics. Whether you will be able to feel 1 lb is questionable. On a street car I seriously doubt it.

BuffaloBoxster 04-25-2006 05:14 AM

You might not feel that small a difference on the street, but you'll definately feel three or four pounds per corner. I'd bet that on a racetrack if I ran my Box with both sets of wheels back to back there'd be a noticable difference in lap times.


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