04-16-2006, 08:01 AM
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First off, it is illegal and likely to get you a nasty ticket in most parts.
Moreover, if it was my neighbor's car, I woud have him arrested.
Otherwise, I am sure it is fine!
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04-16-2006, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Brucelee
First off, it is illegal and likely to get you a nasty ticket in most parts.
Moreover, if it was my neighbor's car, I woud have him arrested.
Otherwise, I am sure it is fine!
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Which communist state do you live in? It most certainly is not illegal. I've been pulled over for not having the current tags on my license plate and the officer complimented me on my car's sound.
With the 4 cats, the noise isn't too loud at idle and with light throttle.It's only when you step on it or drone along at 2300-2700 rpm that the dBA's go way up.
CW
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04-16-2006, 12:40 PM
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I guarantee you if you drive a Box with no muffler in CA you will be ticketed and your car will be inpounded. I can lead you to the CHP guys who will be happy to perform this task.
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04-16-2006, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Brucelee
I guarantee you if you drive a Box with no muffler in CA you will be ticketed and your car will be inpounded. I can lead you to the CHP guys who will be happy to perform this task.
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Nice try. I live in CA and drive all over the state.
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ETA: The officer was a CHP.
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04-16-2006, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Cold Warrior
Nice try. I live in CA and drive all over the state.
CW
ETA: The officer was a CHP.
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You can stow the attitude here bub. I also live in CA and if you are driving in this state with no cats and no muffler, you are at risk to be cited and have you car impounded. That is simply the law.
The fact that it hasn't happened to you yet simply proves you are lucky, not correct in your assessment.
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04-16-2006, 04:14 PM
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"The catalytic converter plays a major role in the emissions reduction of a motor vehicle. The vehicle manufacturer has matched a specific catalytic converter to the vehicle to minimize emissions output. Both CARB and the EPA do not allow the replacement of a catalytic converter with non-exempt "high flow" performance replacement unit. In fact, it is technically not legal to even replace a converter unless it has been proven by technician to have failed, and then it can only be replaced with an exempt OEM equivalent unit."
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04-16-2006, 04:29 PM
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Hi,
I agree with Brucelee 100% on this. These are afterall Street Cars - don't try to make it everything. Get a dedicated Track Car and have at it. If you can't afford this, then too bad, leave the Cats in place.
The Greens are already trying to zero-in on Enthusiasts as creating more pollution and wasting Dino Juice - we don't need people like you giving them more ammunition...
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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04-16-2006, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Brucelee
You can stow the attitude here bub. I also live in CA and if you are driving in this state with no cats and no muffler, you are at risk to be cited and have you car impounded. That is simply the law.
The fact that it hasn't happened to you yet simply proves you are lucky, not correct in your assessment.
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Who said anything about no cats? I've got all 4. You're the one with the attitude BTW.
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04-16-2006, 09:49 PM
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No dude, Bruce is 100% correct--there are sound laws in Cali that you're breaking and the CHP or whoever else WILL fine you for it, if they so choose.
Here's the problem--there's no standardized means for them to decide whether or not your car's exhaust is breaking the decibel law. It's basically up to the officer's discretion and then it's in your hands to take it to court and try to prove that your exhaust is legal.
So, if your car looks relatively normal and you seem like a decent guy, the cop's probably just going to go "it's a porsche, they're loud" and let you go without a ticket. If you look like a teenager and have neon and crap on your car, they'll be more likely to give you a ticket.
Ask me how I know!!!!! 
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04-17-2006, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Cold Warrior
Who said anything about no cats? I've got all 4. You're the one with the attitude BTW.
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Here is the original question!
No Muffler, Straight Pipes and tips..Anyone done this?
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Has anyone tried this?
KRZ
Given this question, our advice is appropriate. You are running an illegal exhaust system here in CA, which makes you subject to citation and having your car impounded.
The fact that you have not been cited, makes you lucky, not smart.
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04-17-2006, 11:04 AM
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Lets try to wrap this silly ass thread up.
If you drive in CA without mufflers but with the legal cats in place, the officer can decide it is illegal, ie, write you a ticket for a loudness violation. It appears that he cannot impound your car if the smog is legal, BUT if he thinks it might be, he has that discretion. You then and go fight with the judge as to whether he overstepped his bounds.
If you are really running straight pipes, ie, neither cats nor muffler, it is pretty clear he can and will simply take your car. This is a clear violation of CARB regs.
On the truck you go!
Having said that, I know the CHP ARE picking up ricers and taking their cars if they SUSPECT that the engine and exhaust are not CARB legal. While the ricer may get his car back if it proves to be legal, that is faint consolation indeed, to my way of thinking.
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