S muffler on 98 base? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

911monty · 07-09-2015, 10:12 AM

I have searched this forum but can't seem to find the answer, or maybe there isn't one. So I have a few questions and could really use some help. I have a 98 Base with the (as I have just discovered) not very flattering exhaust tip.

So I understand the 03 S muffler may be an improvement in both looks and sound. So my questions are, Is there an adapter available for the different mount on the muffler? Are the C pipes the same diameter so this would be a simple bolt on? Someone out there must have done this. Any help is much appreciated.

RandallNeighbour · 07-09-2015, 10:34 AM

I looked into this a long time ago for my 1997 and ended up buying a Top Speed twin chamber twin tailpipe muffler and it sounds amazing. If you search the threads here you'll find upgraded clamps that are said to eliminate the cabin drone. Not sure if it will really eliminate it, but if it drops a lot of the drone out of the exhaust you're home free.

The Top Speed unit sounds glorious at wide open throttle. Seriously.

AND, it's half the weight of a factory Porsche muffler and operates a LOT cooler. My factory muffler heated up the back trunk on long trips and my tennis shoe melted into the laces tucked under the bottom of the shoe! The factory ones must be packed with material or baffles and they build up a lot of heat.

911monty · 07-09-2015, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour

I looked into this a long time ago for my 1997 and ended up buying a Top Speed twin chamber twin tailpipe muffler and it sounds amazing. If you search the threads here you'll find upgraded clamps that are said to eliminate the cabin drone. Not sure if it will really eliminate it, but if it drops a lot of the drone out of the exhaust you're home free.

The Top Speed unit sounds glorious at wide open throttle. Seriously.

AND, it's half the weight of a factory Porsche muffler and operates a LOT cooler. My factory muffler heated up the back trunk on long trips and my tennis shoe melted into the laces tucked under the bottom of the shoe! The factory ones must be packed with material or baffles and they build up a lot of heat.

HAHA! I think yours was the first thread I found in my search! You were looking for a 2.5 muffler specifically, thread died after mention of Fabspeed sources. I wondered how that turned out...Guess I know now LOL!.
I know what you mean by the stock muffler getting hot, but I understand the internal baffling was changed in 03 for the S with better tone and lighter weight. I may have to go with aftermarket but with Kalifornia laws and such and since I hate drone, I'm thinking I might attempt this mod first, then if no go I may alter course. There was one thread that had an adapter referenced, but that link is no longer active. Thanks for the input on the Top Speed though, gives food for thought.

RandallNeighbour · 07-09-2015, 12:24 PM

I keep forgetting you Cali guys can't do what you like to your cars or you won't pass a smog test.

Out here in Texas we do as we please for the most part and have the smog to prove it!!!!

EJ-Fresno · 07-09-2015, 12:28 PM

I think it's a straight forward assembly, the C-pipes and mufflers being the same for 99 and 03.

911monty · 07-09-2015, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EJ-Fresno

I think it's a straight forward assembly, the C-pipes and mufflers being the same for 99 and 03.

Thanks EJ I think you are right concerning C pipes. However MY 97-99 have a different hanger than MY 00-04 and require a hanger adapter part no. 000 044 200 11 that was developed for PSE. I am looking for that adapter and the MY 03 or 04 S muffler.

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Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour

I keep forgetting you Cali guys can't do what you like to your cars or you won't pass a smog test.

Out here in Texas we do as we please for the most part and have the smog to prove it!!!!

Modding cars here has become really stupid since the laws change year to year! Really hate the CARB 49 State legal stuff cause Cali isn't one of them!!! Even Smog test changed this year 2000 and newer is computer interrogation but prior is still sniff.
But we do have great roads! Nacimiento Ferguson to Hwy 1 is one of my regular routes!

911monty · 07-09-2015, 03:52 PM

I've been doing some research but I'll need some help from experts now. I found a thread where Tool Pants refers to an adapter PN 000 044 200 11. In his response there appears to be a picture of the adapter which apparently is a kit. Any way to find what PN's are in this kit. The adapter appears to be the same as the ebay bracket in bottom photo. The two parts diagrams are for the -99 (lower pic) and the 00- (top pic) the 5 speed adapter #6 on the -99 and #8 on 00- diagrams are the same PN. Does this indicate the same bolt pattern on the 5 speed trans for all years? And if this is the case will the ebay mount PN 996 111 226 02 same PN as the 02 diagram, work on my 98 to hang the 03 S muffler on?

tommy583 · 07-10-2015, 03:30 AM

You can just drill some new holes in the hanger plate on the S muffler. Then use new bolts to attach in the same place the old muffler was. You will also have to cut off the old bolts on the S muffler hanger. I have done this and it wasn't too much trouble. The hardest part is figuring where to drill the new holes so the muffler is centered. But since you can't see the hanger bracket when the bumper cover is on you can screw up a few times and it won't matter.

amagalla · 07-10-2015, 07:15 AM

Where in cali are you? I just replaced the muffler on my 03 S it's in great shape. Maybe we work something out. I'm in San Jose. PM me.

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911monty · 07-10-2015, 01:44 PM

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Where in cali are you? I just replaced the muffler on my 03 S it's in great shape. Maybe we work something out. I'm in San Jose. PM me.

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I'm 3 hrs South in Paso Robles. I'll PM you. Oh and I am not selling amber headlights on CL for $750.00

itsnotanova · 07-11-2015, 09:06 AM

Here's a 2003 5 speed vs a 1997 5 speed

Some mufflers

I believe the piece in the middle is all you will need?

911monty · 07-11-2015, 11:09 AM

Yes Sir! Thanks for the reply with pictures! This should certainly help anyone else considering this mod. Please send me pm with your info on payment! I will update thread once I install. Thanks you are the Best!

Benitom · 07-12-2015, 07:10 PM

Excuse my ignorance - I live in Cali and not up to speed on smog laws - per the comments in this thread I can't swap out the exhaust on my 98 Boxster?