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boxster 11-22-2011 10:07 AM

drilled brake discs
 
i have a set of drilled brake discs on my 986, but since installing them 2 years ago i already had to skim them twice. the reason being that i start getting steering judder after some heavy braking from highway speeds.
my mechanic told me that its beacuse the material of the discs is not of original quality, so now he suggested i change the front discs.
but i dont know what to get.
i think the safest will be to install a set of original brembos, but they dont do them drilled, and i really like the look of the drilled ones.
someone suggested sebro german brake discs, anyone has experience with them?
is warping an issue with all drilled discs, or is it just the inferior material that causes discs to warp.
i also have a set of ebc red stuff pads.
could it be them that are causing the discs to warp, maybe theyre too harsh?
any suggestions please?

Overdrive 11-22-2011 12:11 PM

3 things, if I may ask:

What year is your 986?

Depending on your answer above: if 2000 or later, is it a base model?

What size are your wheels?

My reason for asking these is because you could get yourself the front rotors and calipers from a Boxster S if you have a base model. They should just drop right in...the rears not so much if I recall what I've read correctly, but it only works if you've got 17 inch or larger wheels, I believe.

Might as well go with factory parts that you know will work and hold up to their task. You do have to watch out with hairline cracks starting to form between the drill holes on these types of rotors though. I believe even the Boxster S rotors are not safe from this eventual stress.

MileHighBoxster 11-22-2011 02:53 PM

S Brakes for the front. Drilled, factory and fine.

thstone 11-22-2011 03:28 PM

I use Cquence drilled rotors for my '99 base 986 and have not had any problems with judder even after 20 track days and lots and lots of very hard braking (to the point where I have melted the brake wear sensors twice). The Cquence rotors are also very affordable.

BYprodriver 11-22-2011 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxster (Post 265295)
i have a set of drilled brake discs on my 986, but since installing them 2 years ago i already had to skim them twice. the reason being that i start getting steering judder after some heavy braking from highway speeds.
my mechanic told me that its beacuse the material of the discs is not of original quality, so now he suggested i change the front discs.
but i dont know what to get.
i think the safest will be to install a set of original brembos, but they dont do them drilled, and i really like the look of the drilled ones.
someone suggested sebro german brake discs, anyone has experience with them?
is warping an issue with all drilled discs, or is it just the inferior material that causes discs to warp.
i also have a set of ebc red stuff pads.
could it be them that are causing the discs to warp, maybe theyre too harsh?
any suggestions please?

I would try a set of stock OEM type pads 1st, you may like them better anyway.

TriGem2k 11-22-2011 06:44 PM

Guys the base 987 and base 986 have the same size disc. I run 987 OEM base discs up front. The are drilled. Problem solved

Good luck

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boxster 11-22-2011 10:40 PM

my car is a 1999 base model and it has the 19" turbo wheels on.
are the 987 base model's discs drilled?

Overdrive 11-23-2011 05:12 AM

According to TriGem2k they are (read the end of his post), so maybe that's an even easier bolt-on swap you can pursue.

Pat 11-23-2011 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BYprodriver (Post 265348)
I would try a set of stock OEM type pads 1st, you may like them better anyway.

Listen to this guy.

thstone 11-23-2011 09:11 AM

The EBC Red Stuff pads are quite an improvement over the stock pads. Much better initial bite, no heat fade, and almost zero brake dust on your wheels.

It is not likely that the EBC pads are causing the rotors to warp. I've driven my car with EBC RedStuff pads on the track until the brake sensors have melted without any rotor issues.

Pat 11-23-2011 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thstone (Post 265449)
The EBC Red Stuff pads are quite an improvement over the stock pads. Much better initial bite, no heat fade, and almost zero brake dust on your wheels.

It is not likely that the EBC pads are causing the rotors to warp. I've driven my car with EBC RedStuff pads on the track until the brake sensors have melted without any rotor issues.

I'm not saying they caused the rotors to warm. I'm saying there may be uneven pad deposits on the rotors.

DFW02S 11-23-2011 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat (Post 265451)
I'm not saying they caused the rotors to warm. I'm saying there may be uneven pad deposits on the rotors.

Uneven deposits often happens after track days.
Here's what I do when my rotors are "warped" - the most common misdiagnosis for the deposits and shuddering you describe.

Spray a fine mist over the rotors at the end of the day, a full hosing down works too.

Let the car sit at least overnight, giving the water a chance to get under the deposits and start to oxidize the surface of the rotors.

In the morning (or whenever) do your best too avoid stepping on the brakes until you get the car up to 30 mph or better and then stab the brakes hard. Repeat 2x.

The deposits will be magically scraped away and the rotors will be fine until you need to do it again.

boxster 11-24-2011 12:10 AM

wont cold water affect the discs when thy are still hot?
Pat, are you saying that the ebc red stuff might emmit uneven brake deposits compared to stock pads?

Pat 11-24-2011 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxster (Post 265542)
wont cold water affect the discs when thy are still hot?
Pat, are you saying that the ebc red stuff might emmit uneven brake deposits compared to stock pads?

I'm saying many people misinterpret uneven pad deposits as warped rotors. It can happen with many, if not most, types of pads.

boxster 11-25-2011 04:44 AM

since ebs red stuff are meant to emmit less dust than some other types of pads i thought that theyll have an advantage

stephen wilson 11-25-2011 05:44 AM

I'm sure he means wet the discs when they're cold, to generate a little surface rust overnight.


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