06-10-2010, 02:18 AM
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Jake Raby Question
Local dealer says $1200.00 for IMS LN Engineering bearing in a manual trans and
about $2000.00 for a Tiptronic, which I have. Does this sound right? Is there that
much more involved in the Tip removal to install the bearing?
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06-10-2010, 05:55 AM
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Engine Surgeon
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Location: Cleveland GA USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 996tt2002
Local dealer says $1200.00 for IMS LN Engineering bearing in a manual trans and
about $2000.00 for a Tiptronic, which I have. Does this sound right? Is there that
much more involved in the Tip removal to install the bearing?
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Everything is more difficult with a tip. I charge 500.00 more to do the procedure to a tip car than a manual.
Those prices are dirt cheap, they must be hungry over there!
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06-10-2010, 06:34 AM
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Not sure about the Boxster, but in the 996 cars the engine and gearbox must be dropped as a unit, and then separated out of the car, which is not a fun job in and of itself, as access to the bolts to that hold the torque converter to the flexplate (flywheel on an automatic car) is through the opening in the bellhousing where the starer sits (you remove the starter).
Those prices seem pretty reasonable for the amount of work involved.
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06-10-2010, 06:42 AM
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Engine Surgeon
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In a Boxster the Tip tranny can be removed with the engine remaining in the car, but it is no fun at all.
I'd never do an IMS procedure for that kind of money, but then again we do way more than just the retrofit and we helped develop the tools and procedure.
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IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
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06-10-2010, 06:57 AM
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Thank you for the information. $1200 seemed like pretty cheap IMS "insurance"
to me.
This quote over the phone was from Reeves Imports, the local Porsche dealer
here in Tampa. They usually anren't considered the cheapest place to have work
done!
Didn't even ask about a PCA discount which they normally give!
Rob C.
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06-10-2010, 07:08 AM
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Porscheectomy
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Seattle Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 996tt2002
Thank you for the information. $1200 seemed like pretty cheap IMS "insurance"
to me.
This quote over the phone was from Reeves Imports, the local Porsche dealer
here in Tampa. They usually anren't considered the cheapest place to have work
done!
Didn't even ask about a PCA discount which they normally give!
Rob C.
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That's pretty close to the labor when I had mine done on a manual transmission. $1200 doesn't include the bearing and puller tool, right?
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07-20-2010, 03:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloudsurfer
Not sure about the Boxster, but in the 996 cars the engine and gearbox must be dropped as a unit, and then separated out of the car, which is not a fun job in and of itself, as access to the bolts to that hold the torque converter to the flexplate (flywheel on an automatic car) is through the opening in the bellhousing where the starer sits (you remove the starter).
Those prices seem pretty reasonable for the amount of work involved.
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WHAT?????????? I changed the clutch and RMS on my 996 turbo without dropping the engine.
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07-21-2010, 07:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lardog
WHAT?????????? I changed the clutch and RMS on my 996 turbo without dropping the engine.
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996 and 996 Turbo are completely different monsters to work on....
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09-03-2016, 05:32 AM
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Reeves Imports
After reading numerous posts here, I called Reeves Imports (Porsche) to see if they did the retrofit w/LN bearing etc... . They said that they had performed HUNDREDS and were in compliance with warranty requirements. So, I had everything done along with clutch kit all bearings blah-blah. They said my paperwork was in the car. Next day I call Raby's shop to see what I have to do and was told that Reeves had to send in the old bearing along with paperwork. Called Reeves and was told that they never had to send in anything and would call me back. Never did and all my calls have now revealed that they give a two year unlimited warranty from Reeves. WTF! Reeves advertises on PCA websites and should be dropped. They act as if they are qualified to properly perform this service, and obviously are not. All the other folks like me are probably unaware of this. Maybe, some of them will read this post and contact their attorney as I have.
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09-03-2016, 06:25 AM
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Ben-Auto-Design
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What's the difference? They give you a warranty instead of LN?
Doesn't LN's warranty cover only the part?
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09-03-2016, 07:34 AM
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1999 base
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Location: Coral Springs FL
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Not sure what is your problem and what you expect them to do.
If your engine will blow up tomorrow, LN will not cover it even if the bearing was sent to them. So if reeves gives you 2 years warranty, you are in a better situation then most people who replaced the bearing.
Unless I'm missing something here
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09-03-2016, 07:35 AM
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Reeves
Read Jake's warranty if done by approved technicians. Three times the warranty given by Reeves. That's the problem. I don't want to change the friggin bearing every two years or risk failure. Are you a Reeves technician?
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09-03-2016, 07:54 AM
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Reeves
Maybe I'm reading Jake's info wrong? Yes, the engine may disintegrate today, but with 27000 mi.,I was hoping to get to 30. Not accustomed to the attitude of expecting something to fail just because it's a Porsche.
I've owned several without problems. I appreciate all the knowledge provided on this forum and hope new Boxster owners are more diligent than I.
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09-03-2016, 08:01 AM
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Ben-Auto-Design
Join Date: Oct 2014
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On LN's website it says two year warranty for the LN retrofit, but that doesn't cover the labor nor anything that will need replacing in case of a failure.
They RECOMMEND replacing every 6 years: IMS - Products LN Engineering
But the warranty says 2 years: Dual Row IMS Retrofit Kit for MY97-01 - IMS - Products LN Engineering
The engine won't blow up just because the garage didn't give you LN warranty nor do you have to change the bearing every two year
Meir and I both installed ours ourself, no warranty... at all, still running
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09-03-2016, 08:09 AM
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Reeves
 Thanks for relieving some worry.
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