The best performance modification that I have made to my Boxster-S to date!

[kias@tampabay.rr.com]

If you guys interested, just eMail: sales@roadsportsupply.com

He has 2.7L and 3.2L kits for Boxster.

[JFP in PA]

Strange how the exact same post (verbatim) appears on several websites on the same day..........

Under different names, but same post with the same pictures..............all promoting the same product...................and suggesting you contact the same email address for more info…………..and yet forgets to mention this plenum costs $900………….

[kias@tampabay.rr.com]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

Strange how the exact same post (verbatim) appears on several websites on the same day..........

Under different names, but same post with the same pictures..............all promoting the same product...................and suggesting you contact the same email address for more info…………..and yet forgets to mention this plenum costs $900………….

I have posted the same exact information on the websites that I am a member. Why do I need to mention price (is that you requirement?), if you need to buy it do it. I am not on commissions on this nor do I want to be a sales person for this product. Just try to share my exprience with this product, I like to know the same thing if some one else had the same experience. If I known about some of the other products that I have purchased with feedback, I could have saved some money.

[Topless]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

Strange how the exact same post (verbatim) appears on several websites on the same day..........

Under different names, but same post with the same pictures..............all promoting the same product...................and suggesting you contact the same email address for more info…………..and yet forgets to mention this plenum costs $900………….

Spamorama!
Good eye JFP

[JFP in PA]

Other boards have already deleted the thread for obvious reasons.............

[jmatta]

I didn't take it as spam, just a member sharing an update that he found interesting...and it is. I'm a fairly good track driver (and instructor), but I don't have great knowledge of how to improve upon the application Porsche has given us...I rely upon the "techies" that post on this board; JFP being one of them.

[Lobo1186]

thats interesting I always looked at an engine like a breathing person. The more Air you can get the better. (IE for runners the better their body can get the air to the blood stream etc the better) I didnt know there was more to it than just volume available to the engine.

[JFP in PA]

First, let me be direct about this plenum: I have no personal experience with it. The concept of creating a smoother flow path often has merit; but not always. That said, before I would even remotely consider popping nearly a grand for it, I would need to see some unbiased performance data.

Intake or cylinder head “improvements” are typically developed on a flow bench, which reproduces the flow under vacuum conditions that occur in an engine. A flow bench can accurately reproduce and quantify the slightest increase in flow. These are the devices used to develop the concept of canting the intake valves slightly (literally a couple of degrees off axis) on race engines to improve cylinder filling and flow. Flow benches can be used to detect the changes brought on by just altering the finish on and an intake’s interior; they are that sensitive.



Once optimized on a flow bench, the plenum should be subjected to extensive dyno pulls. Anyone that has been seriously involved in the development of racing components will tell you that improving flow does not always translate into more usable power; in fact, sometimes really high flowing intakes do not make more power, or at least not in a usable RPM range. And sometimes what seemed like a good idea actually makes things worse……….

Once the developer has “paid their dues” and come up with a proven concept, the next step would be to get some units into the hands of what marketer’s call “early adopters”, those that are willing to take a chance on a new technology, but are independent of the product’s developer(s) and have some level of credibility in the community. These early adopters then beat the Hell out of the component to either prove or disprove its relative merit.

So far, all I have seen for this component are shaky and undocumented tests done by anonymous individuals of unknown relationship to the developer posted on the net. That really does not “cut the mustard” on proving the component does anything positive………………..

[mikefocke]

I consider spam to be off topic.

Shill is on topic but someone trying to sell you something.

The tone of the message was that to me when I first read it. Seeing the same message on multiple forums on the same day caused me to question the motive of the original poster. Reinforcing that impression is the number of other messages the same poster has posted on other topics. Credibility is built over time.

I don't consider the multiple "handles" a bad sign, some of the finest people use em...happy birthday 1stchoir.

I could be wrong ... just my impression.

$70 per HP for an increase you can't use or fell legally....

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by mikefocke

I consider spam to be off topic.

Shill is on topic but someone trying to sell you something.

The tone of the message was that to me when I first read it. Seeing the same message on multiple forums on the same day caused me to question the motive of the original poster. Reinforcing that impression is the number of other messages the same poster has posted on other topics. Credibility is built over time.

I don't consider the multiple "handles" a bad sign, some of the finest people use em...happy birthday 1stchoir.

I could be wrong ... just my impression.

$70 per HP for an increase you can't use or fell legally....

Good points Mike. All the best for the New Year.......