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		|  10-28-2009, 10:08 AM | #1 |  
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			And to add into the mix of great deals, Softronic is advertising that Planet-9 members get their software AND Durametric software for $716!http://www.planet-9.com/news-items/37627-2009-softronic-winter-special.html 
That's really a better deal than FVD since the Durametric software is around $350 by itself.
 
Now I am scratching my head on which one will give me better tuning results! Decisions decisions...
 
Can anybody give pros and cons between the two? 
 
I will probably go with the Softronic deal as I need the Durametric software to see what's up with my recent CEL.
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		|  10-28-2009, 11:14 AM | #2 |  
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			HA!! They wouldnt even answer my questions about the softronic in my car.  They just said it was more indepth.   I dont get it.  I just have  a 996 motor in my car with a stock porsche reflash.  Its not like I put a v8 in the car or something.  
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 < - Porsche Specialist>:  I don't have a user account to see the price. and I have worked out that custom tunes are not part of the special however
 < - Porsche Specialist>:  so the flash is much different and for that car does require you to mail in your ECU
 : 716 on a 3.4 996
 < - Porsche Specialist>:  yeah it is different price
 : why is the tune different is my question?
 < - Porsche Specialist>:  its not a simple obdii flash
 < - Porsche Specialist>:  difference paremeters etc
 : if it is the same dme and the same motor what are the variables?
 < - Porsche Specialist>:  Jay, I am not able to answer the indepth tuning functions, I can tell you that the conversion or custom files are not on special
 
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		|  10-28-2009, 11:46 AM | #3 |  
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				 HA!! They wouldnt even answer my questions about the softronic in my car.  They just said it was more indepth.   I dont get it.  I just have  a 996 motor in my car with a stock porsche reflash.  Its not like I put a v8 in the car or something.  
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 < - Porsche Specialist>:  I don't have a user account to see the price. Scott and I have worked out that custom tunes are not part of the special however
 < - Porsche Specialist>:  so the flash is much different and for that car does require you to mail in your ECU
 : 716 on a 3.4 996
 < - Porsche Specialist>:  yeah it is different price
 : why is the tune different is my question?
 < - Porsche Specialist>:  its not a simple obdii flash
 < - Porsche Specialist>:  difference paremeters etc
 : if it is the same dme and the same motor what are the variables?
 < - Porsche Specialist>:  Jay, I am not able to answer the indepth tuning functions, I can tell you that the conversion or custom files are not on special
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		|  10-28-2009, 12:03 PM | #4 |  
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			I have just a stock 99 boxster 2.5 manual.  It has been reflashed with 996 software.
		 
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		|  10-28-2009, 12:15 PM | #5 |  
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				 I have just a stock 99 boxster 2.5 manual.  It has been reflashed with 996 software. |  
I guess I can see their point.  They probably have to go through some extra steps to work with your set-up.  If you were using a 996 DME, then I would totally agree with you.
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		|  10-28-2009, 12:25 PM | #6 |  
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			I was going to use a stock dme.. But then you get into key fobs and all that stuff... stock was better for me and a lot cheaper.  I am talking to a few other companies also about this.  FVD is still trying to get me on their product.  I may have to go with it.  It is just real expensive.  1500.00  I'm not trying to spend that much more on the car.  I am just liking driving it.  Just did the spark plugs and cleaned my bmc so well go from there and see how she feels.  Thanks for your interest.
		 
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		|  10-28-2009, 12:25 PM | #7 |  
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			Just spoke with Softronic and brought up your issue Jay as I was confused by the conversation you had with them and she said that your setup is not normal due to you converting your car to a 3.4 996 engine and that your car's base year is a '99. She said there were several variables involved with conversions and that their software harness is not even compatible with models prior to 2000. She also confirmed that conversion files are not on special. You might want to give them a call to get better clarification on your setup but it doesn't sound like your setup will work with what they are offering and requires something different.
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		|  10-29-2009, 04:28 AM | #8 |  
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				 < - Porsche Specialist>:  so the flash is much different and for that car does require you to mail in your ECU<
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I would have a problem with that.  You should have it tuned on a dyno IMO.    I'm looking at EVOMsit.  I don't have it yet.   See what you think. should be a dyno there for your car plus Vids.
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		|  10-29-2009, 04:47 AM | #9 |  
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			That's deffinatly the way to go. If they were not so far from me I would go there. I have a tuner in Pa. I don't know what software you need to into the Porsche dme.
		 
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		|  10-29-2009, 09:33 AM | #10 |  
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			Pulled the trigger on the Softronic deal although I don't think I would have gone wrong going with FVD. Just liked the fact that Softronic was in the US and I read on one of the boards the Scott was working with Flat6 on something (can't find the post or remember what the heck it was about!!). I'll post my my thoughts when I get the software.
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		|  10-29-2009, 05:14 PM | #11 |  
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			I uploaded my new FVD ecu software earlier today.  Within the first few miles I could discern a marked improvement in my vehicle's throttle response, as well as an altogether more linear power band. I would encourage any forum member who is interested in improving their vehicle's performance with better software  to "jump" on this great opportunity. Thanks FVD.    
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		|  10-29-2009, 06:28 PM | #12 |  
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				 I uploaded my new FVD ecu software earlier today.  Within the first few miles I could discern a marked improvement in my vehicle's throttle response, as well as an altogether more linear power band. I would encourage any forum member who is interested in improving their vehicle's performance with better software  to "jump" on this great opportunity. Thanks FVD.    |  
If only there was an emoticon with a bigger smile to assimilate our faces. The increase to 7.2k on the RPM band is phenominal!
		 
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		|  11-11-2009, 05:24 PM | #13 |  
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				 And to add into the mix of great deals, Softronic is advertising that Planet-9 members get their software AND Durametric software for $716!http://www.planet-9.com/news-items/37627-2009-softronic-winter-special.html 
That's really a better deal than FVD since the Durametric software is around $350 by itself.
 
Now I am scratching my head on which one will give me better tuning results! Decisions decisions...
 
Can anybody give pros and cons between the two? 
 
I will probably go with the Softronic deal as I need the Durametric software to see what's up with my recent CEL. |  
Same problem. I'm trying to decide.  Is the Durametric software really that usefull? you can erase a CEL, but in most cases it will just return.  and I can already do that with a $20 scanner from Autozone.  You can view all kinds of values, over revs etc.. but you can't modify them.  
 
Also, how are there ECU flashes in comparison to FVD?  I have intake, headers, Full exhaust and am looking for maximum benefit from these mods.  how is Softronics reputation compared to FVD?   wouldn't mind the extra software but FVD's price is in enticing.       Help     
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		|  11-12-2009, 09:08 AM | #14 |  
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			I havent used the Durametric syuff but I think it allows you to clear more codes than a basic scanner. Like airbag/immobilizer codes and others maybe. 
 But what do I know, I only have 20 posts... wait, now I'm at 21!!!!
 
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		|  11-12-2009, 10:48 AM | #15 |  
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				 Same problem. I'm trying to decide.  Is the Durametric software really that usefull? you can erase a CEL, but in most cases it will just return.  and I can already do that with a $20 scanner from Autozone.  You can view all kinds of values, over revs etc.. but you can't modify them.   
Also, how are there ECU flashes in comparison to FVD?  I have intake, headers, Full exhaust and am looking for maximum benefit from these mods.  how is Softronics reputation compared to FVD?   wouldn't mind the extra software but FVD's price is in enticing.       Help    |  
2K3 Boxster,
 
Read the reviews on 6Speed and Planet 9 regarding all of the positive experiences members have had with FVD and their products. Their commitment to customer service is unsurpassed, and their products all perform in an exemplary manner.  Also, in all due respect, I suspect the reason why you keep getting CEL's is because of the NHP exhaust components on your vehicle. I know several others who are experiencing the same as a result of that brand.
		 
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		|  11-12-2009, 04:19 PM | #16 |  
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				 2K3 Boxster,
 Read the reviews on 6Speed and Planet 9 regarding all of the positive experiences members have had with FVD and their products. Their commitment to customer service is unsurpassed, and their products all perform in an exemplary manner.  Also, in all due respect, I suspect the reason why you keep getting CEL's is because of the NHP exhaust components on your vehicle. I know several others who are experiencing the same as a result of that brand.
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Yes, I know for a fact the CEL is from the O2 sensors in the sport CATS.  Not unhappy about that at all.  That just tells me they are working like they should be.  Flowing freely and the ecu is reading no change in values in the  Post sampling.  easy fix O2 bung extender.   
 
Thanks for your opionion on the quality of FVD and there products.  After reading your post. I have decided to go ahead with FVD.  Will be calling them Monday, hopefully there sale is still on.  Thanks again     
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