Waterpump go bye bye - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

edevlin · 08-19-2009, 08:48 AM

OEM water pump 280.00
gasket 6.00
Belt idle , lower 92.00
belt idle roller, upper, 77.00
Belt tensioner 60.00
1 gallon porsche antifreeze 37.00
3 hours labor 290.00
belt replacement 16.00

Looks like about 900.00 bucks to me. I could have saved on the labor and done it myself, but it looked like a reasonable pain in the butt when they did it. Its great to put money into these high mileage Boxsters while we wait for them to blow up

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When I was in the shop there was a 99' boxster there with blown engine, they said they thought it was IMS failure. When the owner tried to turn it over, they said it sounded like the engine was full of ball-peen hammers. The owner found a replacement used engine and is having it stuck in. The guys in the shop said the older boxsters that are still running are going for very cheap. They said one sold locally for 5k recently.....

Ed

Boxtaboy · 08-19-2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by edevlin

OEM water pump 280.00
gasket 6.00
Belt idle , lower 92.00
belt idle roller, upper, 77.00
Belt tensioner 60.00
1 gallon porsche antifreeze 37.00
3 hours labor 290.00
belt replacement 16.00

Looks like about 900.00 bucks to me. I could have saved on the labor and done it myself, but it looked like a reasonable pain in the butt when they did it. Its great to put money into these high mileage Boxsters while we wait for them to blow up

.

When I was in the shop there was a 99' boxster there with blown engine, they said they thought it was IMS failure. When the owner tried to turn it over, they said it sounded like the engine was full of ball-peen hammers. The owner found a replacement used engine and is having it stuck in. The guys in the shop said the older boxsters that are still running are going for very cheap. They said one sold locally for 5k recently.....

Ed

Curious Ed- why did they replace all the rollers and tensioners? I had my dealer replace a broken water pump at 59k recently, and they just replaced the water pump (S-belt was still good, as it was just replaced at 50k). Is it normal practice to replace all the pulleys and tensioner during this repair?

Jake Raby · 08-19-2009, 09:28 AM

Looks like I have been working too cheap.. Its pretty bad when a specialist charges less than anyone else and replaces more parts and even dynos the car afterward :-)

edevlin · 08-19-2009, 09:55 AM

"Looks like I have been working too cheap.. Its pretty bad when a specialist charges less than anyone else and replaces more parts and even dynos the car afterward"

I hear you Jake, BTW, I hope your dad is doing OK. I have been thinking about having you do the IMS bearing replacement, but wanted to wait till I needed to also replace a clutch. My local indep porsche mechanic said these boxster engines are really a crap shoot as to how long they will last....

Ed

edevlin · 08-19-2009, 12:09 PM

"Curious Ed- why did they replace all the rollers and tensioners? I had my dealer replace a broken water pump at 59k recently, and they just replaced the water pump (S-belt was still good, as it was just replaced at 50k). Is it normal practice to replace all the pulleys and tensioner during this repair?"

Good question, my mechanic said its a good idea when he is in there to do the pullys and tensioner, as he has seen them lock up in high mileage boxsters. He showed me a couple of locked up bearings on his shelf of bunged up parts from boxsters (80-100K). Bearings locked up, cooked the belt and left the owner high and dry. He said it would be easy for him to do when he was doing the water pump, I did not know the parts cost would be over 200.00, my bad.

He also said I should be aware of wheel bearings as I approach 90K on the car. But he did not recommend replacing them till they start to misbehave, as you can go with noisy bearings for awhile. BTW, I have the original wheel bearings and they are fine so far (as was my water pump apparently....).

He said I may also want to think about replacing my ignition switch as well as the electronics on the rear end of the ignition "gun" assembly, as he has seen quite a few failures in high mileage Boxsters. To be fair, my mechanic knows that I pretty regularly do long road trips with my car (1,500 miles round trip) and that I have been putting 15K miles on the car a year for the last 3 years.

Ed

Boxtaboy · 08-19-2009, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edevlin

"Curious Ed- why did they replace all the rollers and tensioners? I had my dealer replace a broken water pump at 59k recently, and they just replaced the water pump (S-belt was still good, as it was just replaced at 50k). Is it normal practice to replace all the pulleys and tensioner during this repair?"

Good question, my mechanic said its a good idea when he is in there to do the pullys and tensioner, as he has seen them lock up in high mileage boxsters. He showed me a couple of locked up bearings on his shelf of bunged up parts from boxsters (80-100K). Bearings locked up, cooked the belt and left the owner high and dry. He said it would be easy for him to do when he was doing the water pump, I did not know the parts cost would be over 200.00, my bad.

He also said I should be aware of wheel bearings as I approach 90K on the car. But he did not recommend replacing them till they start to misbehave, as you can go with noisy bearings for awhile. BTW, I have the original wheel bearings and they are fine so far (as was my water pump apparently....).

He said I may also want to think about replacing my ignition switch as well as the electronics on the rear end of the ignition "gun" assembly, as he has seen quite a few failures in high mileage Boxsters. To be fair, my mechanic knows that I pretty regularly do long road trips with my car (1,500 miles round trip) and that I have been putting 15K miles on the car a year for the last 3 years.

Ed

Thanks for the explanation. Now I'm pissed the dealer did not replace my pulleys and tensioner while they were in there!

Frodo · 08-19-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake Raby

Looks like I have been working too cheap.. Its pretty bad when a specialist charges less than anyone else and replaces more parts and even dynos the car afterward :-)

You just keep on being reasonable, Jake, and we'll keep on being appreciative. I just wish you were in Cleveland OHIO instead of Cleveland GA. Hope your dad's doing better...