Question for Jake Raby on Turbos
Figure mentioning your name in the title is the way to get your attention.. sorry
I after hearing some of your complaints about pbbb wandered over there intent on some rubbernecking of the issues you mentioned, did a search on your name and found a older thread running through a question i have been meaning to post about. My 2001 boxster s happily hit 101,000 miles old yesterday. While it is cheery as ever i on the other hand continue the hand wringing that reading what you write about our engines tends to cause. (not debating the point, i just at points enjoying the bliss my ignorance induces) The car runs reliably with just typical (for porsche) wear parts that i can fix myself. (engine mounts, coolant tanks, wheel bearings, cv boots, 02 sensors, MAF replacements)... anyhow... i get bored easily, 15 vehicles in 4 years easy, and i never intended on keeping the boxster too long. The car has grown on me and i have found it difficult to believe i could replace it with something i like as more or more for anything close to what its worth (which is not much being a 100,000 poor man's porsche) I am trying to scheme ways to keep the boxster but it needs some more exciting power (driving STI's make me grin) The thread i found on PBBB talked about a FSI and TurboKraft joint project that you were recommending for us "soon to scatter parts" high mileagers. Is this the boxster s turbo-kit Kraft has available? did it ever get off the ground? I love turbocharged cars and a turbo boxster would be nearly perfect (interior still sucks though) Updates? this thread was from oct 2008. I know you guys are hard at work, the FSI site doesn't seem particularly up-to-date, particularly when it comes to us 3.2 guys. Info would be appreciated. |
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No use to keep the site updated, or even try.. Results and information is changing faster than we can post it... Right now our primary focus is development, even more so than sales of engines and components.. Once its developed and making astounding results-They will come... Right now its all about internals... |
wow, that was a prompt response.
though a non engineer, i have always liked what a turbo can do with a small engine. A 3.2 isnt particularly small but even so... The only thing that makes me like the idea of an NA engine is that porsche engine sound (i know,i know) The big issue is i don't have $20,000 clams to toss your way at the moment. So picking up a turbo kit that will later factor into my engine upgrade sounds like a decent method. sounds like you had/have a lot of respect for turbokrafts work. I'm not probably buying a kit this week, but if i were, would you still recommend them? (i am assuming the fsi kit isn't just around the corner) ... or if you care to spend the time, convince me out of a boxster turbo? I would hope that an FSI engine might last me forever, but at 300rwhp NA engine sounds like she might be mightily stressed. my performance priorities seem to line up with yours (with the exception that i like things to sound good) torque, particularly down low in the rev range is what makes a car feel powerful and entertaining. I cant imagine that can be done more efficiently than with forced induction. (but i'm not an engineer) |
Personally, I think if you have already made it to over 100k on your car, I don't think you have much to worry about. I am part of an informal Northeast Tri-State Boxster club that gets together for wrenching and drives (www.tsbl.org). We have over 30 members, and I cannot think of one person in the group who has had their engine fail due to an IMS or D chunk failure. One person has had an engine replacement done by the factory on warranty due to an RMS leak, but that's it. I have just hit 60k miles on my 01 Boxster, and other than regular oil changes (always used M1 0w-40, btw) & brake jobs, I've only had to replace the coolant tank, a worn motor mount, and a water pump. Pretty darn reliable if you ask me.
Now I'm not trying to say there isn't a weak point in the M96 engines, as I think there obviously is if Porsche engineered out the IMS, but for many owners, I think they will never experience a problem. Just continue driving it and enjoy it I say, and worry about a problem if/when it ever materializes. |
Well yes, but I can't believe it will run forever. I get a ton of mileage out of my expensive high wear michelins I'm told. So I'm soft on the car. I want some grunt though, or just a change. I love the lovables on Porsche. Brakes, steering feel, balance, noise.... But it needs a kick in the butt, or I do. I'm still young (25) so call it imaturity.
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I not unaware of the options. On the other hand the 3.4 are second only to 2.5 from what I can tell, on a failure standpoint. I have egas, so depending on who I'm talking to a 3.6 would work. By the time I am done with the sourcing the engine, the elctronics, the inevitable issues with tuning and parts like throttle bodies and engine mount fabrication, not to mention that transplant isn't something I can do myself... I'm back to where FSI would take me financially. Except with FSI I have a much better engine, much more power, virtually eliminated the normal weak points, and kept stuff like psm that I would lose getting a 3.6....(am I missing anything from the sales pitch Jake?)
Plus I like turbos |
can i get raby back (old chili's jingle)
Jake, if i can pull you away from the drama. Does FSI currently sell a turbo kit or have an ETA? do you guys need guinea pigs?... actually not sure i or my wallet can stomach a guinea pig job. Is turbokraft a good solution until i can have you build the engine for boost? and since "a lot has changed since then" is there any better concept of what such a build would cost?
i would call you and save you the time of typing, but it seems to me that i am probably not the only person with this question right now, much less in the future and having the conversation here helps get the word out, and give you a little free self-promotion everyone is soo upset about. |
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