10-10-2007, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by delubozparts
Hi Thom,
As TUV certifications are mainly applied for wheels,
Che
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Not quite true, if you want to make any changes on your car in Germany you need a TUV approval sticker on the part, the certify many things. The reason I was asking is that while many members may have seen the parts and I am sure they are happy, I am also an old guy who spends two weeks each month in Asia visiting factories so I am a cynic when it comes to quality claims.
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10-11-2007, 07:10 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Addison,Texas
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Originally Posted by thomschoon
Not quite true, if you want to make any changes on your car in Germany you need a TUV approval sticker on the part, the certify many things. The reason I was asking is that while many members may have seen the parts and I am sure they are happy, I am also an old guy who spends two weeks each month in Asia visiting factories so I am a cynic when it comes to quality claims.
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Hi Thom,
I pretty much do the same thing as you, I saw many factories/manufactures in Asia like you had mentioned some are ridiculous on their facility and Quality control, but if a particular facility are managed by a individual from here (USA) really makes a difference on products. As TUV certifications may applied to Germany as I'm not familar due to my business are conducted here in USA, I apologized if my claim are for the wheels only.
BTW This is Link from the manufacturer that produced these Suspension parts:
http://hardrace.com/quality.asp
Owner had lived & educated here in USA and had knowledge of Quality Control and what type of material requirment for suspension components, HardRace had manufactured many products for Japan and USA Markets with Excellent reputations.
Cheers !
Last edited by delubozparts; 10-11-2007 at 08:15 AM.
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10-11-2007, 07:56 AM
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Porscheectomy
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Seattle Area
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Originally Posted by delubozparts
Hi Thom,
I pretty much do the same thing as you, I saw many factories/manufactures in Asia like you had mentioned some are ridiculous on their facility and Quality control, but if a particular facility are managed by a individual from here (USA) really makes a difference on products. As TUV certifications may applied to Germany as I'm not familar due to my business are conducted here in USA, I apologized if my claim are for the wheels only.
Cheers !
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Thom makes an excellent point about Chinese suppliers. One of the main issue that I've dealt with from Chinese suppliers is product consistency. Part to part variation can be ridiculously high.
However, as Che points out, there are some excellent manufacturers in China as well. But if you don't go there to inspect the facilities and ensure that they have all the appropriate tooling for manufacturing and quality control, chances are you're not going to end up with a quality product. Hopefully, Che's manufacturer has a continuous dimensional quality inspection process with some random destructive testing. There's a concern with raw material quality as received by the manufacturer as well, which leads to the need for rigorous incoming inspection measures.
A couple of members on this board reporting on how well the parts work shouldn't be enough proof for anyone who's really concerned about the quality of these parts.
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10-11-2007, 09:02 AM
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Location: Where the Sewer Meets the Sea, CA. USA
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Originally Posted by blue2000s
Thom makes an excellent point about Chinese suppliers. One of the main issue that I've dealt with from Chinese suppliers is product consistency. Part to part variation can be ridiculously high.
However, as Che points out, there are some excellent manufacturers in China as well. But if you don't go there to inspect the facilities and ensure that they have all the appropriate tooling for manufacturing and quality control, chances are you're not going to end up with a quality product. Hopefully, Che's manufacturer has a continuous dimensional quality inspection process with some random destructive testing. There's a concern with raw material quality as received by the manufacturer as well, which leads to the need for rigorous incoming inspection measures.
A couple of members on this board reporting on how well the parts work shouldn't be enough proof for anyone who's really concerned about the quality of these parts.
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I found this on the hardrace site, you may want to email them your concerns that you may have. http://hardrace.com/precise.asp#2
Che, Could you look into possibly creating an aftermarket front engine mount and possibly transmission mounts... cause they are pricey like a mofo and they all eventually wear out as have the mounts on my boxster currently.
Last edited by CJ_Boxster; 10-11-2007 at 09:06 AM.
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10-11-2007, 09:20 AM
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Location: Sanford NC
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Pedro over at ppbb is making remanufactured
& improved front motor mounts. See here
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10-11-2007, 09:40 AM
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Location: Sacramento
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Originally Posted by CJ_Boxster
I found this on the hardrace site, you may want to email them your concerns that you may have. http://hardrace.com/precise.asp#2
Che, Could you look into possibly creating an aftermarket front engine mount and possibly transmission mounts... cause they are pricey like a mofo and they all eventually wear out as have the mounts on my boxster currently.
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Dude the OEM motor mounts aren't that much,like $180/parts. Isn't the one that goes bad fast located behind the driver seat? The tranny mounts should only be around $200-250/each.
Like Mr.Focke said,check out Pedro's stuff.
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10-11-2007, 10:14 AM
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Yeah i looked at his, I think i was quoted much higher than 180 from pacific porsche, Ill probably order up one from Pedro. Thanks blink & mike
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