Che @ delubozparts Rear Track Arms GB $249.99 Shipped

[delubozparts]

Originally Posted by thomschoon

i was wondering if these parts were TUV approved or had some other certifications as they would be holding my car together? I looked at the Hardrace site and it isnt very clear to where the parts are made other then being based in Taiwan, just wondering about quality as the price is half of what the GT3 equivalents would cost.

Thanks for any input

Thom

Hi Thom,

About 80% of Aftermarket parts are not TUV or certifications, these aftermarket products are developed and tested on particular vehicle to making sure the parts functioned & withhold the Track and road conditions. As TUV certifications are mainly applied for wheels, as for as quaility concern there are some members already installed and saw the quality of these Rear Track arms, perhaps anyone could post and share more info's other than word of mine. Thank you !



Che

[JP-s-in st. louis]

I hate to ask but is there a chance of a group buy or a discount if you purchase all 3 maybe both?

[delubozparts]

Originally Posted by JP-s-in st. louis

I hate to ask but is there a chance of a group buy or a discount if you purchase all 3 maybe both?

Hi JP-s-in st.louis,

For All 3 Sets Combo Special GB Price is $619.99 Shipped within 48 States USA,For International is $714.99

Thank you !

Che

[JP-s-in st. louis]

Originally Posted by delubozparts

Hi JP-s-in st.louis,

For All 3 Sets Combo Special GB Price is $619.99 Shipped within 48 States USA,For International is $714.99

Thank you !

Che

OK I will bite..I will order next week when I can install them. My guy that does the alignment and corner ballance is at daytona testing now and will not be back till after the 24hr race. thannks

[CJ_Boxster]

Originally Posted by delubozparts

Hi Thom,

As for as quaility concern there are some members already installed and saw the quality of these Rear Track arms, perhaps anyone could post and share more info's other than word of mine. Thank you !



Che

I have the rear track arms and right out the box you can tell they are sturdy, I cant remember how far back i installed them but its been probably more than 6 months since i first installed them, they are still working flawlessly, taken the box to a track day at fontana speedway, get sideways on some left hand turns now and then and i have burned rubber and taken high speed corners with the control arms installed, They havent shown any signs of failure.

[thomschoon]

Originally Posted by delubozparts

Hi Thom,

As TUV certifications are mainly applied for wheels,



Che

Not quite true, if you want to make any changes on your car in Germany you need a TUV approval sticker on the part, the certify many things. The reason I was asking is that while many members may have seen the parts and I am sure they are happy, I am also an old guy who spends two weeks each month in Asia visiting factories so I am a cynic when it comes to quality claims.

[delubozparts]

Originally Posted by thomschoon

Not quite true, if you want to make any changes on your car in Germany you need a TUV approval sticker on the part, the certify many things. The reason I was asking is that while many members may have seen the parts and I am sure they are happy, I am also an old guy who spends two weeks each month in Asia visiting factories so I am a cynic when it comes to quality claims.

Hi Thom,

I pretty much do the same thing as you, I saw many factories/manufactures in Asia like you had mentioned some are ridiculous on their facility and Quality control, but if a particular facility are managed by a individual from here (USA) really makes a difference on products. As TUV certifications may applied to Germany as I'm not familar due to my business are conducted here in USA, I apologized if my claim are for the wheels only.

BTW This is Link from the manufacturer that produced these Suspension parts:

http://hardrace.com/quality.asp

Owner had lived & educated here in USA and had knowledge of Quality Control and what type of material requirment for suspension components, HardRace had manufactured many products for Japan and USA Markets with Excellent reputations.


Cheers !

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by delubozparts

Hi Thom,

I pretty much do the same thing as you, I saw many factories/manufactures in Asia like you had mentioned some are ridiculous on their facility and Quality control, but if a particular facility are managed by a individual from here (USA) really makes a difference on products. As TUV certifications may applied to Germany as I'm not familar due to my business are conducted here in USA, I apologized if my claim are for the wheels only.

Cheers !

Thom makes an excellent point about Chinese suppliers. One of the main issue that I've dealt with from Chinese suppliers is product consistency. Part to part variation can be ridiculously high.

However, as Che points out, there are some excellent manufacturers in China as well. But if you don't go there to inspect the facilities and ensure that they have all the appropriate tooling for manufacturing and quality control, chances are you're not going to end up with a quality product. Hopefully, Che's manufacturer has a continuous dimensional quality inspection process with some random destructive testing. There's a concern with raw material quality as received by the manufacturer as well, which leads to the need for rigorous incoming inspection measures.

A couple of members on this board reporting on how well the parts work shouldn't be enough proof for anyone who's really concerned about the quality of these parts.

[CJ_Boxster]

Originally Posted by blue2000s

Thom makes an excellent point about Chinese suppliers. One of the main issue that I've dealt with from Chinese suppliers is product consistency. Part to part variation can be ridiculously high.

However, as Che points out, there are some excellent manufacturers in China as well. But if you don't go there to inspect the facilities and ensure that they have all the appropriate tooling for manufacturing and quality control, chances are you're not going to end up with a quality product. Hopefully, Che's manufacturer has a continuous dimensional quality inspection process with some random destructive testing. There's a concern with raw material quality as received by the manufacturer as well, which leads to the need for rigorous incoming inspection measures.

A couple of members on this board reporting on how well the parts work shouldn't be enough proof for anyone who's really concerned about the quality of these parts.

I found this on the hardrace site, you may want to email them your concerns that you may have. http://hardrace.com/precise.asp#2


Che, Could you look into possibly creating an aftermarket front engine mount and possibly transmission mounts... cause they are pricey like a mofo and they all eventually wear out as have the mounts on my boxster currently.

[mikefocke]

& improved front motor mounts. Seehere

[blinkwatt]

Originally Posted by CJ_Boxster

I found this on the hardrace site, you may want to email them your concerns that you may have. http://hardrace.com/precise.asp#2


Che, Could you look into possibly creating an aftermarket front engine mount and possibly transmission mounts... cause they are pricey like a mofo and they all eventually wear out as have the mounts on my boxster currently.

Dude the OEM motor mounts aren't that much,like $180/parts. Isn't the one that goes bad fast located behind the driver seat? The tranny mounts should only be around $200-250/each.

Like Mr.Focke said,check out Pedro's stuff.

[CJ_Boxster]

Yeah i looked at his, I think i was quoted much higher than 180 from pacific porsche, Ill probably order up one from Pedro. Thanks blink & mike