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porsche986spyder · 05-22-2007, 06:38 AM

What does DME stand for?

CJ_Boxster · 05-22-2007, 07:10 AM

Dang, Im so amped to do this mod, Can anyone give me the Part Number of a dot matrix cluster that will work for a 1997 boxster, and from what year to what year's & models will fit incase i find some without the part number listed online. THANK IN ADVANCE!

Would this part number fit my 1997 boxster, 996 641 223 01 70C ?

Tool Pants · 05-22-2007, 07:22 AM

The dot matrix cluster started in 2002. It will not work on a 1997.

The 996 clusters that work on a 1997 are 1999-2000 and I also believe 2001. The 996 cluster needs to be from a C2.

porsche986spyder · 05-22-2007, 08:25 AM

Okay, a few questions here:

1) What does DME stand for?
2) Can I get the C2 cluster for an 01 Boxster Base Model? If so does anyone have the right part number?
3) Do all of the other warrning lights and functions still work the same? Does this reset the odemeter?
4) Does the C2 have the light for our covertible tops? The one that stays on until it's closed all the way. Spoiler light?

Cloudsurfer · 05-22-2007, 10:25 AM

DME is the german term for ECU, i.e. engine computer (well more than just engine in modern cars but you know what I mean).

As far as doing the cluster swap for the "Older" generation clusters, it will have to be from a C2 up to 01. These used light bulbs instead of LEDs for the idiot lights, so you will likely have to put a bulb in for the convertible and spoiler lights. All the warnings, etc will work properly then. You will have the mileage from the new cluster, as that is where the data is stored.

Patrick

porsche986spyder · 05-22-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwm750

DME is the german term for ECU, i.e. engine computer (well more than just engine in modern cars but you know what I mean).

As far as doing the cluster swap for the "Older" generation clusters, it will have to be from a C2 up to 01. These used light bulbs instead of LEDs for the idiot lights, so you will likely have to put a bulb in for the convertible and spoiler lights. All the warnings, etc will work properly then. You will have the mileage from the new cluster, as that is where the data is stored.

Patrick

Sounds kind of risky with the milage thing. If you sell your car later on, how does the person buying it know the real milage? Did you have to have it reprogramed to the correct milage, or did you leave it with the new milage on the odometer. I would not want to show a false odometer reading and with one that shows more than is actually on the car.

And how did you get white face gauges? I only see black ones for sale. Did you get a later model one that came this way or did you switch them out?

porsche986spyder · 05-22-2007, 02:31 PM

Sounds kind of risky with the milage thing. If you sell your car later on, how does the person buying it know the real milage? Did you have to have it reprogramed to the correct milage, or did you leave it with the new milage on the odometer. I would not want to show a false odometer reading and with one that shows more than is actually on the car. It's also illigal to change you odometer reading on a car that you are selling. Not that you selling yours. Just something to think about.

And how did you get white face gauges? I only see C2 black ones for sale. Did you get a later model one that came this way or did you switch them out?

fornowh · 05-24-2007, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche986spyder

What does DME stand for?

Could you tell me where you purchase the intakes (Truflow) on your car, or what model, I am looking through the web, but I do not see any application chart. Did you paint those -the red paint- looks great and is there a after market plenum for the boxster. I have a 2003 S.

Thanks

Thumper · 05-24-2007, 08:54 AM

Patrick,

Can you go into your OBC and get the oil level? My cluster gives me a failure notice when I go into it to get the oil level, which indicates that my cluster is more than likely from a TT with the dry sump system which reads the oil level differently than a C2. Not sure if the C4 uses the same oil system as a C2 or a Boxster. I also don't know if the fuel gauge is reading correctly yet, but it does read "Full" with my full tank of gas. The C4 and the TT use a saddle type tank which has a different type of sending unit. The miles to empty reading appears to be accurate based upon my average mileage per tank of gas, but I won't know until I go out and burn some of that expensive fuel.

Otherwise, my cluster works great. I don't know if I'm ready to invest in another cluster just yet. (I'm on my second cluster....the first was fried) But I probably will since little things like this drive me nuts.

Jeff

porsche986spyder · 05-24-2007, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Thumper

Patrick,

Can you go into your OBC and get the oil level? My cluster gives me a failure notice when I go into it to get the oil level, which indicates that my cluster is more than likely from a TT with the dry sump system which reads the oil level differently than a C2. Not sure if the C4 uses the same oil system as a C2 or a Boxster. I also don't know if the fuel gauge is reading correctly yet, but it does read "Full" with my full tank of gas. The C4 and the TT use a saddle type tank which has a different type of sending unit. The miles to empty reading appears to be accurate based upon my average mileage per tank of gas, but I won't know until I go out and burn some of that expensive fuel.

Otherwise, my cluster works great. I don't know if I'm ready to invest in another cluster just yet. (I'm on my second cluster....the first was fried) But I probably will since little things like this drive me nuts.

Jeff

All this hasle just to get 2 extra gauges! I'm beginning to think it's NOT WORTH IT. The gauges are an extra oil temp, and an extra battery volt gauge. Kinda lame.

Why not just add an autometer dual gauge pod over the steering wheel? They make one for our cars.

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/4259_4804/products_id/16118

Cloudsurfer · 05-24-2007, 09:49 AM

Jeff-

My oil gauge works properly, and it appears my fuel gauge is accurate now after a re-set. I'll confirm once it gets low after I deal with replacing my clutch

The oil level gauges are different on the Turbo motors, but should be the same on a C2 or C4. As I said, mine is accurate. As for fuel, a C4 or TT gauge will not be accuate, due to the saddle tank to accomodate the front drive components.

As far as this being "worth it," mine has gone fairly smoothly, and I am very happy to have oil pressure, voltage is semi useful (useful to me as I have a high end audio install), and I love the dot matrix cluster and was thrilled to get rid of the "pretty Boxster" font on the gauge faces.

You could certainly get the same information by doing a gauge pod, and before I did this I was planning to install 3 gauges on top of my climate controls where the cubby is. I still would like oil temp somewhere, but I am very happy with this upgrade. Worst case, I'll get the dealer to calibrate my fuel level sender if it is still off.

Patrick

Thumper · 05-24-2007, 09:57 AM

The cluster swap is easier to install than the gauge pod idea offered up and is rice free. Not to mention it gives you a factory look. The added dot matrix display and OBC is worth the effort all by itself.

porsche986spyder · 05-24-2007, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Thumper

The cluster swap is easier to install than the gauge pod idea offered up and is rice free. Not to mention it gives you a factory look. The added dot matrix display and OBC is worth the effort all by itself.

True, but the enclosed dual gauge pod over the steering wheel still keeps it factory looking. It's not like there are wires hanging out all over the place in the back of it or anything. Rice?? Not really when you think about all of those guys at the auto-x track with multiple guages on their nice German Porsches riding around on the race track. Besides, I would much rather have an air/fuel ratio gauge and a oil "pressure" gauge not temp installed. You can guy electrical ones that are not as hard to install as the mechanical ones. Or a boost guage for all you superchaged boxsters out there.

porsche986spyder · 05-24-2007, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by fornowh

Could you tell me where you purchase the intakes (Truflow) on your car, or what model, I am looking through the web, but I do not see any application chart. Did you paint those -the red paint- looks great and is there a after market plenum for the boxster. I have a 2003 S.

Thanks

I sent you a P.M.