05-21-2007, 09:06 AM
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Per my parts guy 996 641 980 76 70C is discontinued and replaced by 996 641 981 73 70C.
PET is screwed up for 996 641 981 73 70C. After the part number it lists 480 which is the option code for a 6 speed. But it does not list a second code. Such as 339 for a C4 and 338 for a C2.
So, I cannot confirm from the part number if it came from a C4 or C2. Just that it came from a manual transmission 996.
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05-21-2007, 06:56 PM
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Thanks for the help guys. So it appears that this is a C2 cluster. I'm going to see if this reads correct as it gets low on fuel (after my DME/cluster reset), if not, off to the stealership we go to properly calibrate the cluster to the sender.
Patrick
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05-22-2007, 06:38 AM
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What does DME stand for?
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05-22-2007, 07:10 AM
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Dang, Im so amped to do this mod, Can anyone give me the Part Number of a dot matrix cluster that will work for a 1997 boxster, and from what year to what year's & models will fit incase i find some without the part number listed online. THANK IN ADVANCE!
Would this part number fit my 1997 boxster, 996 641 223 01 70C ?
Last edited by CJ_Boxster; 05-22-2007 at 07:14 AM.
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05-22-2007, 07:22 AM
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The dot matrix cluster started in 2002. It will not work on a 1997.
The 996 clusters that work on a 1997 are 1999-2000 and I also believe 2001. The 996 cluster needs to be from a C2.
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05-22-2007, 08:25 AM
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Okay, a few questions here:
1) What does DME stand for?
2) Can I get the C2 cluster for an 01 Boxster Base Model? If so does anyone have the right part number?
3) Do all of the other warrning lights and functions still work the same? Does this reset the odemeter?
4) Does the C2 have the light for our covertible tops? The one that stays on until it's closed all the way. Spoiler light?
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05-22-2007, 10:25 AM
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DME is the german term for ECU, i.e. engine computer (well more than just engine in modern cars but you know what I mean).
As far as doing the cluster swap for the "Older" generation clusters, it will have to be from a C2 up to 01. These used light bulbs instead of LEDs for the idiot lights, so you will likely have to put a bulb in for the convertible and spoiler lights. All the warnings, etc will work properly then. You will have the mileage from the new cluster, as that is where the data is stored.
Patrick
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05-24-2007, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by porsche986spyder
What does DME stand for? 
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Could you tell me where you purchase the intakes (Truflow) on your car, or what model, I am looking through the web, but I do not see any application chart. Did you paint those -the red paint- looks great and is there a after market plenum for the boxster. I have a 2003 S.
Thanks
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05-24-2007, 08:54 AM
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Patrick,
Can you go into your OBC and get the oil level? My cluster gives me a failure notice when I go into it to get the oil level, which indicates that my cluster is more than likely from a TT with the dry sump system which reads the oil level differently than a C2. Not sure if the C4 uses the same oil system as a C2 or a Boxster. I also don't know if the fuel gauge is reading correctly yet, but it does read "Full" with my full tank of gas. The C4 and the TT use a saddle type tank which has a different type of sending unit. The miles to empty reading appears to be accurate based upon my average mileage per tank of gas, but I won't know until I go out and burn some of that expensive fuel.
Otherwise, my cluster works great. I don't know if I'm ready to invest in another cluster just yet. (I'm on my second cluster....the first was fried) But I probably will since little things like this drive me nuts.
Jeff
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05-24-2007, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Thumper
Patrick,
Can you go into your OBC and get the oil level? My cluster gives me a failure notice when I go into it to get the oil level, which indicates that my cluster is more than likely from a TT with the dry sump system which reads the oil level differently than a C2. Not sure if the C4 uses the same oil system as a C2 or a Boxster. I also don't know if the fuel gauge is reading correctly yet, but it does read "Full" with my full tank of gas. The C4 and the TT use a saddle type tank which has a different type of sending unit. The miles to empty reading appears to be accurate based upon my average mileage per tank of gas, but I won't know until I go out and burn some of that expensive fuel.
Otherwise, my cluster works great. I don't know if I'm ready to invest in another cluster just yet. (I'm on my second cluster....the first was fried) But I probably will since little things like this drive me nuts.
Jeff
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All this hasle just to get 2 extra gauges! I'm beginning to think it's NOT WORTH IT. The gauges are an extra oil temp, and an extra battery volt gauge. Kinda lame.  Why not just add an autometer dual gauge pod over the steering wheel? They make one for our cars.
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/4259_4804/products_id/16118
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05-24-2007, 09:49 AM
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Jeff-
My oil gauge works properly, and it appears my fuel gauge is accurate now after a re-set. I'll confirm once it gets low after I deal with replacing my clutch
The oil level gauges are different on the Turbo motors, but should be the same on a C2 or C4. As I said, mine is accurate. As for fuel, a C4 or TT gauge will not be accuate, due to the saddle tank to accomodate the front drive components.
As far as this being "worth it," mine has gone fairly smoothly, and I am very happy to have oil pressure, voltage is semi useful (useful to me as I have a high end audio install), and I love the dot matrix cluster and was thrilled to get rid of the "pretty Boxster" font on the gauge faces.
You could certainly get the same information by doing a gauge pod, and before I did this I was planning to install 3 gauges on top of my climate controls where the cubby is. I still would like oil temp somewhere, but I am very happy with this upgrade. Worst case, I'll get the dealer to calibrate my fuel level sender if it is still off.
Patrick
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05-24-2007, 09:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fornowh
Could you tell me where you purchase the intakes (Truflow) on your car, or what model, I am looking through the web, but I do not see any application chart. Did you paint those -the red paint- looks great and is there a after market plenum for the boxster. I have a 2003 S.
Thanks
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I sent you a P.M.
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