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Old 03-16-2007, 04:34 PM   #1
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I'm running to your defense Bavarian. I think as long as you are happy with the results, then you got your money's worth on the mod. You can check the thread on the bashing I got when I posted my dyno results.

It doesn't matter if you have hard results or not, there will be people on this forum who will still be skeptical about mods.

Keep us updated if you ever dyno it.
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Old 03-16-2007, 08:01 PM   #2
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I can dyno it for you guys if you think it will help? I mean, I don't have a before dyno to compare to, but I don't mind spending the $$ if it makes you guys happy :P



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Old 03-16-2007, 09:15 PM   #3
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I can dyno it for you guys if you think it will help? I mean, I don't have a before dyno to compare to, but I don't mind spending the $$ if it makes you guys happy :P



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Hi,

A Dyno run without Baseline #s from the same car doesn't give you anything to compare it to.

Individual cars can vary widely in their Dyno numbers. I saw an 8 Peak HP difference between 2 Stock Boxsters (roughly the same mileage, etc.) run back to back on the same Dyno. That's probably more than any possible gain you got from the chip, so comparing your numbers even to a set of stock OEM specs still doesn't make for much comparison. I'd save your money...

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bav, congrats on your purchase and being happy yourself....listen you can't win here all the time.....I think I just saw that chip in a magazine I randomly got and was going to post on here about it....

The chip I saw claimed HP went from 240 to 254 for the base and a half second drop in 0-60...I was going to mention it to Dr Burton since it claims to take the "s" version to almost 300 horses.....so I say dyno it...I highly doubt your 987 was producing more than 240 so I would say anything above, give yourself a pat on the back......

if you only gained 3 extra hp, then I might still get one to offset the loss in speed if I get the 19 inch replica classics

I don't want SD and the other guys teasin me about having the slowest 987....still one of the funniest things I have read.....
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Old 03-17-2007, 08:01 AM   #5
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Thank you sir.


The problem w/ a dyno is I believe they measure WHP only. I didn't know what my WHP was so how could I compare to see it now?


Are there any dynos that measure hp somewhere else?
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:56 AM   #6
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Bavarian, contrary to what some say here, I believe your claim.
I don't know about Powerchip or GIAC, but we had a chance to drive one of local owner's REVO'd 986. It was fairly impressive. I noticed some people bash on these chips without ever driving one. Forget opinions from "internet expert" and only listen to the opinions from owners.

Have you heard about "Sprint Booster"? (not for Boxster)
So many negative and nay sayers, but again nobody never had real experience on the product. I contacted one of the owners for test drive and now I can't imagine driving my Mercedes without it. I'm not saying all chips will be like that. Even REVO was not as good as Sprint Booster. You also have to listen to the negative report on GIAC from one of 996 owners(Renntech). Just don't fall into the non owner's guessing games.

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Old 03-17-2007, 02:19 PM   #7
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Bav, I hope your car is faster and making a lot more hp/tq then it did. I'm not trying to rain on your parade (too much at least). I just put very little stock into people's butt dyno claims whoever that may be. Some people may have no problem basing their decisions off what others say, but me, I like hard factual data that's not biased.
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Bavarian, contrary to what some say here, I believe your claim.
I don't know about Powerchip or GIAC, but we had a chance to drive one of local owner's REVO'd 986. It was fairly impressive. I noticed some people bash on these chips without ever driving one. Forget opinions from "internet expert" and only listen to the opinions from owners.

Have you heard about "Sprint Booster"? (not for Boxster)
So many negative and nay sayers, but again nobody never had real experience on the product. I contacted one of the owners for test drive and now I can't imagine driving my Mercedes without it. I'm not saying all chips will be like that. Even REVO was not as good as Sprint Booster. You also have to listen to the negative report on GIAC from one of 996 owners(Renntech). Just don't fall into the non owner's guessing games.

Trust what you feel, and enjoy what you have.
Hi,

Haven't you started out claiming exactly what you're chiding other people for doing? Judging without actually driving the car? Just an observation...

I too drove a revo'd '04 'S', side-by-side with an '03 'S' that was stock save for being de-snork'd and didn't find the difference very remarkable at all. In fact, if anything, I'd say that any differences were confined to 4.2k RPM (torque) and 6.2k RPM (HP).

The reason I didn't find it remarkable is that at 4.2k RPM, the car is already 'On Cam' and pulling already, and 6.2k RPM is pretty much restricted to Short Bursts, Freeways, and the Track. I certainly didn't find it worth the $900+ investment. Nor did the '04 owner in the end, he said it condemned him to spending another $3k to maximize the investment he'd already made and at that, you're investing a significant % of the resale value, given how soft pre-owned Boxster prices are.

You may well have had a good experience chipping an MB, but that's so much Apples to Oranges as to be totally non-relevant.

Remember, it isn't how good the Aftermarket Chip is. It's about how much the OEM Software leaves on the Table for the Aftermarket Chip makers to capitalize on. Do you think it's possible that MB purposely gelds the Base Car to prop up the AMG variants, similar to what Porsche did with the Boxster/Cayman vs 911?

So far as the Boxster, the stock HP/Displacement ratio is one of the highest out there, that says to me that with stock Intake and Exhaust, Porsche didn't leave a whole lot on the table for Aftermarket tuners to cash-in on. There's just not that much you can do to an NA car for under $1k, and even then it's limited until you switch to FI.

Also, whether it's Renntech, 986forum, or Flat6.com, there simply aren't too many people raving about the HUGE gains from chipping alone - see: http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=8460&st=0&p=41660&#entry41660 or http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=4870&st=0&p=24325&#entry24325 and you'll see that a lot of what I'm saying has been echo'd by others as well.

One other issue not really brought up is what chipping the car will do to any warranty, New or Certified Pre-Owned. Anyone entertaining a re-chip who may still be under warranty should read this first: http://treffen.pca.org/tech/tech_qa_question.asp?id={396E4407-264B-4199-9576-F50C64C97F2B}

I'm happy the owner is pleased, he can do as he likes with his car and money. My issue is with his unqualified "100%" recommendation to others to run out there are plop down $600 - I just don't think he's made his case...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

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