Cars for Your Kids

[seningen]

Originally Posted by steved0x

Glad everybody is ok. My son's 95 Miata was totaled earlier this year by a person that turned left across a 6 lane divided highway into my son. Tore up the front of the car, both airbags deployed, everybody very sore but OK. I'm glad it wasn't a fraction later as she would have hit him right in the door and I think it would have been much worse...

I've got a 2002 Boxster sitting in the front of the house. Brand new engine. <12000 miles. Wasn't originally planning on that being my daughters first car but if
it doesn't sell in a year -- it will be.

I figure its a stick -- has decent safety equipment and she can only be distracted by 1 occupant. Most kids won't know how to drive it, so
she'll be behind the wheel.

I'm also a member at a local road course track - hoping to enroll her in some car control skills.

Hope I'm not making a mistake.....

Mike

[ルーカス]

I would FOR SURE enroll your daughter in some car control courses.

As we all know here the RR and MR cars have a tendency to kill everyone (slightly exaggerated). Seriously, one corner in the rain and she gets on gas at the wrong time she will end up backwards.

First generation Cayenne's are getting relatively cheap. Why not sell the 986 and buy one of those? Just an idea!

[seningen]

Originally Posted by ルーカス

I would FOR SURE enroll your daughter in some car control courses.

As we all know here the RR and MR cars have a tendency to kill everyone (slightly exaggerated). Seriously, one corner in the rain and she gets on gas at the wrong time she will end up backwards.

First generation Cayenne's are getting relatively cheap. Why not sell the 986 and buy one of those? Just an idea!

Familiar with that -- my wife took my old S for a spin....... getting on the gas is the first mistake -- its the sudden lift that puts the nail in the coffin.

Fortunately only pride was hurt here.... must have been a force field in front of that fence -- as it stopped *that close*



M ' don't lift!, don't lift! '

[ルーカス]

Exactly! Takes experience to drive one of these cars.

[coreseller]

Originally Posted by seningen

I've got a 2002 Boxster sitting in the front of the house. Brand new engine. <12000 miles. Wasn't originally planning on that being my daughters first car but if
it doesn't sell in a year -- it will be.

I figure its a stick -- has decent safety equipment and she can only be distracted by 1 occupant. Most kids won't know how to drive it, so
she'll be behind the wheel.

I'm also a member at a local road course track - hoping to enroll her in some car control skills.

Hope I'm not making a mistake.....

Mike

Your Boxster is MUCH more substantial than the 99 Miata I was considering putting the youngest son in, I would not have a problem putting a young driver in it (the Boxster), except for the fear they'd drive like an idiot lol. A picture of my first Miata next to my 993 which is about the same size as a 986 Boxster:



The Street Survival class is one day long put on by The Tire Rack and BMW Club, cost is ~ $75 and well worth it imo.

Tire Rack Street Survival | "Teaching Your Teen Driver to Survive Behind the Wheel"

[Porsche9]

Did all the right things with my daughter in terms of training and this still happened.



A safe car adds that extra layer of protection. In this case it was a multi car pile up caused by someone cutting in and hitting the brakes hard and every else not keeping enough space to be able to stop safely. She was at the back end of that pile up. Fortunately she was relatively unhurt with just some bruising and scratches. The Beetle was totaled. Since she had her provisional license and was at fault she could have lost her license. The judge went "easy" on her and put her license on probation for 2 years. If she got any ticket or another accident she would lose her license for a year. Arizona is pretty strict with young drivers. She is also paying for the increased insurance costs out of her pocket.

I would not recommend a Boxster or any Porsche for a young driver. Too much of a temptation to do something stupid. A nice boring used four door mid or full size sedan is the route to go. My daughter is now driving a 10 year old Honda Accord.

[coreseller]

Originally Posted by Porsche9

Did all the right things with my daughter in terms of training and this still happened.

I would not recommend a Boxster or any Porsche for a young driver. Too much of a temptation to do something stupid. A nice boring used four door mid or full size sedan is the route to go. My daughter is now driving a 10 year old Honda Accord.

Completely Agree. Seningen's situation is that it's (Boxster) sitting there so a readily viable option. All my kids are different, I'd trust the daughter in a Boxster, the others not so much.

[BIGJake111]

Originally Posted by Porsche9

I would not recommend a Boxster or any Porsche for a young driver. Too much of a temptation to do something stupid. A nice boring used four door mid or full size sedan is the route to go.

Not that a porsche is the best option but I know kids who go way over in minivans, Kia sorentos, we had a girl get her licenses suspended for 90 in a 75 in her 2014 Cherokee. We've had kids get in wrecks in accords, Mazdas, and jeeps all from speed. If a kid is going to drive stupid they will anyways, however peer pressure is stronger In a sports car.

The way I see it though, a majority of teenagers I know go between 10 to 15 over with a decent amount pushing it to 20 or 25. Roads a 35 skinny country road most teens go 45 to 60. Considering this, it may be safer to put your kids in a car that is composed at these speeds.

[JayG]

Originally Posted by coreseller

The Street Survival class is one day long put on by The Tire Rack and BMW Club, cost is ~ $75 and well worth it imo.

Tire Rack Street Survival | "Teaching Your Teen Driver to Survive Behind the Wheel"

+1 on the street survival class. It is a great class at almost no cost. They do fill up quick, so you need to register as soon as you can

I had my 16 y/o take it. He had had his license about 3 months. We got him a 2000 Volvo C70 convertible, a very safe car

He has been itching to drive my Boxster, so far I have been using"you don't know how to drive a stick" to keep him out of driving it. Now that we also have a 996 Targa with a Tip, that didn't work any more. We have let him drive it a little under supervision and he has done well. Gonna get a dash cam and a tracker for it and then let him try on his own

He is a pretty good driver and did drive a bit on out trip to San Francisco and back in the Jetta

Also going to enroll him (and my wife) in the next PDS here in March

[RandallNeighbour]

Originally Posted by seningen

I've got a 2002 Boxster sitting in the front of the house. Brand new engine. <12000 miles. Wasn't originally planning on that being my daughters first car but if it doesn't sell in a year -- it will be.

Mike, you may be onto something with it being a stick. Other kids won't be able to drive it (easily anyway) and your daughter won't be able to text while driving or even hold the phone to her ear (easily) if she has to row through gears. She will likely not be doing much highway driving unless she lives a long way from her school.

Because it's such a small car and she will be surrounded by much larger vehicles like pickup trucks and Tahoe's, helping her understand the physics of size and weight impact on her vehicle will be important.

She will be, without a doubt, the most envied teenager at her high school!

[KevinH1990]

Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour

Mike, you may be onto something with it being a stick. Other kids won't be able to drive it (easily anyway) and your daughter won't be able to text while driving or even hold the phone to her ear (easily) if she has to row through gears. She will likely not be doing much highway driving unless she lives a long way from her school.

I was going to give our daughter the 1994 Camry we drove when we brought her home from the hospital. It was a relatively rare manual transmission model and I enjoyed the experience of teaching her how to drive a car with a manual transmission. Unfortunately the car (with 250k on it) was becoming unreliable and it did not have side airbags or ABS. I decided the side airbags were important after one of her classmates was "T-boned" at an intersection breaking her jaw and losing teeth.

So I bought her a 2006 Civic EX - also with a manual transmission. She's at college now and other kids are always asking to borrow the car. As Randall points out, most of the kids in her age group cannot drive a stick. So it is easy to turn them down. As she puts it, "It's not me, it's you." Since it is my understanding that we would be liable if someone caused an accident while driving our car, that is one less thing to worry about.

It was nice to see that a 2010 Civic (same basic layout as the 2006) survived relatively well in an accident.

I had two of the original model of the Miata - a 90 and a 94. I had too many close calls with large trucks and decided that it was time to indulge my long-term goal of buying a Porsche with the added incentive of safety.

[coreseller]

Originally Posted by KevinH1990

I was going to give our daughter the 1994 Camry we drove when we brought her home from the hospital. It was a relatively rare manual transmission model and I enjoyed the experience of teaching her how to drive a car with a manual transmission. Unfortunately the car (with 250k on it) was becoming unreliable and it did not have side airbags or ABS. I decided the side airbags were important after one of her classmates was "T-boned" at an intersection breaking her jaw and losing teeth.

So I bought her a 2006 Civic EX - also with a manual transmission. She's at college now and other kids are always asking to borrow the car. As Randall points out, most of the kids in her age group cannot drive a stick. So it is easy to turn them down. As she puts it, "It's not me, it's you." Since it is my understanding that we would be liable if someone caused an accident while driving our car, that is one less thing to worry about.

It was nice to see that a 2010 Civic (same basic layout as the 2006) survived relatively well in an accident.

I had two of the original model of the Miata - a 90 and a 94. I had too many close calls with large trucks and decided that it was time to indulge my long-term goal of buying a Porsche with the added incentive of safety.

It's GREAT to hear all is well with you and your kid's journeys.....................

[coreseller]

Having heard from others that it would be best if I bowed out............Good Luck to those looking for advice...................