New-to-me 2004S in Atlanta

[Giller]

Originally Posted by Hammerhead2501

No, spent 21K on the car and from what I can gather it's worth about 5K in it's current state. The difference being 16K. Put one of Jake's motors in and I'll have 41K invested.

Ah, gotcha. That definitely is super-crappy. Sorry to hear buddy. Any kind of lemon laws regarding this? You only had her a week.

[Jake Raby]

There are alternatives, but most are just as risky as buying a used engine. In some cases the used engine is better than the "rebuild" that someone is doing that doesn't understand these engines intimately.

Today what we see has changed from a few years ago. Back then, there were no alternatives, you either bought a new engine from Porsche, or you bought my engine, because no one else was even attempting to do internal work with these engines. Today what we see are not failures like Hammerhead2501's, we are seeing the shoddily rebuilt engines failing, and people come to us because the "alternative" failed. They always say "I should have just brought it here in the first place". They should have, because, in lots of those cases I won't even attempt to work with the engine that the last guy molested, and we have to start from scratch. I am to the point now, where we are not accepting jobs that have these engines installed, since they are such a pain to deal with.

What has happened to this engine is a bit outside the norm. It's failure may end up shedding light on mode of failure 29, as the symptoms were odd, and the failure dynamics are not what I have seen before all wrapped into one failure.

We will know in a couple of weeks. Hammerhead2501 faces a big decision, and its a shame that he owned the car for such a short period. Lucky for him, he's less than 80 miles from where all the magic happens, and where the first M96 engine program was started. I hope to resurrect this one.

[CHRISP357]

Actually, we have several great, affordable options and many European shops have been rebuilding these engines longer than anyone. Quite successfully too. Lucky for us, we have some of these guys here to choose from now. If you enjoy paying a ludicrous amount of money to a scare tactic shop, have at it but there are several viable alternatives out there.

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by CHRISP357

Actually, we have several great, affordable options and many European shops have been rebuilding these engines longer than anyone. Quite successfully too. Lucky for us, we have some of these guys here to choose from now. If you enjoy paying a ludicrous amount of money to a scare tactic shop, have at it but there are several viable alternatives out there.

To date I have had almost 2800 technicians attend my engine rebuild classes, and hands on schools. That includes most of those who have gone on to try to be our competitors in this market. I was the one that started these classes, and pushed others to learn about the engines, and I started that way before most people even cared about them. We do the same thing today with the 9a1 engine, where we can hardly fill classes, since shops don't think they need to learn about the newest cars (yet). We've been building the 9a1 since 2010.

A cheap rebuild is the most expensive M96 that can be bought. You'll have to learn that the hard way, though. If the car is well- loved, there is only one option, and its the one thats been around the longest, is the most proven and has a set of components that can't be purchased anywhere else.