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cubbyno9 03-21-2012 04:47 AM

Remove amber film on headlights
 
Hi all, I know I might be repeating previous questions.
I have a pair of headlights with the orange tint on the outside and I am trying to find a way to remove the orange.
I have found on the forum a way to remove the orange tint from inside the headlights but surely there must be a way remove the orange tint that is on the outside.
When running hand over headlight you can feel an edge/lip from the orange color, so does anyone have any advice.

Thanks in advance.

Craig

Overdrive 03-21-2012 08:26 AM

I'm going to make a few assumptions here in my response, so hopefully they're the right ones. If I am not talking about the same thing you're thinking, please clarify.

I assume you're talking about the actual turn signal housing in the headlight when you're talking about the "inside", and the small amber triangle when you're talking about the "outside". In that case, while I'm not sure how you were able to get the amber out of the signal piece, the only way that I know to have a clear triangle is to buy a clear triangular piece and replace it on your headlight. It is a separate piece of the headlight assembly, which is why you feel a roughness between it and the signal portion.

This is a very sought after part, as it breaks very easily and even easier with age as the plastic gets brittle. The headlights that were built with clear turn signals are also sought after, so you'll find the parts may be a bit pricey compared to the amber versions that people don't seem to want. But if you really desire the clear headlight look, that's the way to do it. If your signal is already clear, just get some clear triangles.

tonycarreon 03-21-2012 09:35 AM

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i assume you want to "de-amber" your lights. sadly if your headlights look like this:

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...8663113104-M14

then they can not be "de-ambered"

only these headlights can be "de-ambered":

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...663113114-M422

you can always black them out, either by sanding them down and painting them or getting the blackout film (which is what i did)

Overdrive 03-21-2012 01:57 PM

y'know tony, despite the line between the bumper and the light, that really doesn't look all that bad...

tonycarreon 03-21-2012 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Overdrive (Post 283491)
y'know tony, despite the line between the bumper and the light, that really doesn't look all that bad...

that's exactly how i think of it. "not that bad, not that great." at some point i'll decide what i want to do. i prefer "blacked out" over even the de-ambered. i have a third headlight (i bought it to replace one of the foggy ones) that i'm going to try doing the sand + paint. if i end up liking that, i may go ahead and eventually get the clear lights and black them out.

for 2 years, i had no "issues" with the amber. but in the past year or so they've started to wear thin on me. i think for now just having the black film on there updated the look enough that i like it. who knows, i'll probably get tired of that too.

i figure for the $15 or $20 i paid for it, it's enough of an update for now. the only thing that bothers me on the film is the line between the turn signal and the reflector/triangle. no way around that since the film came in two pieces - one for each part.

cubbyno9 03-23-2012 05:57 AM

Thanks guys
 
Hi Overdrive and Tonycarreon,

Thanks for the reply’s, I appreciate your advice.

Tony my headlights are your first picture, bummer, the blackout film looks pretty good on your car mate. What do you mean sanding them down? Is it possible to take a very fine grinder/sanding disk and sand off the amber. Then when all amber off polish the lens???? Just a thought.

Overdrive, sorry if my explanation wasn’t very good. I am aware that you can buy the corner pieces, I have bought them from eBay, so now it is the amber signal part that needs done. My lights were the same as the first picture from Tony.

I have managed to get a pair of headlights similar to picture 2, fitted them and they look the dogs bollocks. So I now have a pair of lights to try and play around with. Is the amber plastic solid or is it a some kind of film that applied at time of manufacture.

Sorry guys if my explanation isn’t clear.

Cheers guys

Cubby

Overdrive 03-23-2012 07:29 AM

The amber is on the inside of the light, and I'm not sure whether or not it's a film that can be removed, but I'd strongly recommend against opening your lights up if you don't need to. You can clean them up and try to revive them, though. There are kits out there that you can use to clear up the plastic when it becomes opaque and yellowed. If you've already got a set of clear signaled lights, try and do that first.

tonycarreon 03-23-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cubbyno9 (Post 283665)
Tony my headlights are your first picture, bummer, the blackout film looks pretty good on your car mate. What do you mean sanding them down? Is it possible to take a very fine grinder/sanding disk and sand off the amber. Then when all amber off polish the lens???

when is say sand/paint i mean black them out. you won't be able to sand down the amber. it's all the plastic. on the newer ones, there's a film on the inside back of the turn signal that can be heated and removed. on the older ones (like you and i have) the plastic itself is amber.

as far as sanding/painting, there are a lot of youtube videos on how to do it, but essentially you:

1) fine grit sand the light so the paint has a surface to stick to
2) get some the tail light spray paint and paint them.

i believe you have to spray them a couple of times, let them dry and spray a clear coat on them afterwards. you'll then have black turn signals.

RandallNeighbour 03-23-2012 05:32 PM

I know a guy about to sell aftermarket headlamps without any amber in them. Let me find out more and post it here.

Update: he told me he has black and clear versions for sale. Pics to follow.

RandallNeighbour 03-25-2012 06:22 PM

OK guys, I have no affiliation with this company and I'm not making a dime off this posting, so I thought I'd pass it along for those of you looking to de-amber and want other options. This guy lives in Cali and sells bumpers and skirts for Porsches on eBay.

He emailed me a while back after I asked him about his bumpers and we've been dialoging for quite some time... mostly because I'm perpetually broke these days and don't have the money to pull the trigger on the front bumper cover I want.

Anyway, here's pics of his aftermarket headlights in clear and black versions... I don't know anything about them (such as whether they're xenon or halogen), so ask him and not me if you have questions. His info is below the pix...

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1332728320.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1332728331.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1332728343.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1332728355.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1332728363.jpg

these new aftermarket headlights will fit any 986 Boxster (1997-2004) and any 996 (1998-2001) with Boxster style headlights

Items List / ebay price / 986forum special
the price for the chrome- $995.- / $895.- / $795.-
the price for the black- $995.- / $895.- / $795.-

shipping in the USA / Fedex ground is $45.- (rather large box)
for Canada - $75.-
International- $145.-

if they want to order they can contact me at this email jezzsb@aol.com

with their full name, address and phone# and whether they want chrome or black. I will email them an invoice and paypal request, or the invoice will have our mailing information for check or money order

thanks,
Jeffrey
Xtreme Motorcars
(707) 350-0415

tonycarreon 03-26-2012 03:48 AM

randall:

jinster bought these (clear, RHD) from ebay (don't know if it was the same guy) but he was fairly happy i believe. he noted they came with halogen bulbs...

http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/28934-anyone-knows-where-get-some-these-headlights-986-996-a.html

didn't know they came in smoked/black, and there's a forum discount - my wallet is already vibrating...

Meir 03-26-2012 04:06 PM

WOW!
Bumper looks very nice as well.

xtremecc 03-27-2012 08:32 AM

wow! nice bumper indeed!
Im totally in for a pair of black headlights!

prairiefire 04-11-2012 07:00 PM

Email sent, I am very interested in the black set, Thanks Randall

geetee 04-21-2012 05:32 PM

So does anyone have these black ones installed?

SoK 04-25-2012 11:51 AM

has anyone emailed this guy regarding a group buy? i'd love a set of black.

RandallNeighbour 04-25-2012 08:34 PM

I email him all the time about unrelated parts for my boxster. He's probably open to it. Do contact him to see about a group buy. Jeffrey's a good guy!

SoK 04-26-2012 08:05 AM

I'll shoot him a note today and post back when I hear from him.

SoK 04-26-2012 05:07 PM

heard from jeff today, he's checking with his oversees suppliers and will get back with me.

in the meantime, what do you guys think would look better on a seal grey 986, the chrome or the black housing?

xtremecc 04-27-2012 11:14 AM

on a seal grey? man, that's a hard one. I think both would look good. Probably black if you have an aftermarket bumper. Chrome if stock. I have an arctic silver and might go for the black one. Light colored cars would look good with the dark headlights while dark colored cars might look better with the chrome. Just my two cents, Or simply buy both Lol. Any other members that could post pictures of these headlights?

SoK 04-27-2012 12:14 PM

I'm lening toward black since I have the side markers smoked and the DEPO led smoke/red taillights (and tinted windows).

Getting the stock 17" wheels powder coated dark charcoal this summer too, so with all of that I think the black housings will mesh the best.

xtremecc 04-27-2012 12:44 PM

That should look very good I think. After mayor mods, wait a little so I can grow on you. The cool thing about your color is that is very versatile. Seal grey looks good regardless of what you do to it. Lets see if we can make a group purchase and get the price lower. If you do end up getting them, please post some pics for us.

SoK 05-07-2012 06:56 AM

No luck with Jeff at XtremeMotorcars.com. He said that, even with an order of 100+, the price won't be much different. So it looks like this is the best we'll be able to get for the time being.

So.. who's the first to order and get some pics up?

geetee 05-08-2012 08:15 PM

Black housing coming in a few weeks. I'll be for a zenith blue...

SoK 05-09-2012 08:24 AM

can't wait to see it

xtremecc 05-09-2012 04:43 PM

Nice geetee. take some good pics. We also would love to hear your honest review on these headlights

geetee 05-09-2012 05:47 PM

I'll take pics and review. I've seen many pics of the chrome ones but those were too bling for me. Ran into the black housing through xtreme. I can't wait to get these. I'm hoping by the end of the month.
OR? Went to UG in Eugene...

xtremecc 05-10-2012 10:01 AM

You attended UO? I'm in Salem. About 2 hours north.

geetee 05-10-2012 06:12 PM

UO about a decade ago...I use to pass by salem on my way up to seattle quite often...I'm on the other coast now and sure do miss OR...

PCC010 05-25-2012 10:58 AM

Hi guys - new here! Have a 996 and am looking to replace the front headlights. Given my car is black am searching for the smoked led's. Sent an email to Jeff so hopefully they are still available.

PCC010 05-27-2012 02:38 PM

No response from Extreme for a pair of black headlights and can't find any other supplier who sell's the smoked units.

Geetee - have you received your's as yet?

Hopefully Jeff will get back to me soon

Marchie 06-01-2012 09:39 AM

headlights
 
Hi PCC010,
Check out Design911's website , they sell those headlights in both left hand and right hand drive and ship worldwide. I hope this helps.:)

PCC010 06-01-2012 10:16 PM

Thanks mate - yep they're the ones!

Bit expensive on the UK site.

Jeff from Extreme has got back and a black pair should be on their way to Aus soon.

Black on black should blend well given my rear lights are smoked led's too.

I'll post some before and after pics for those interested.

Some worthwile points to consider when fitting these lights (relative to Australia):

As the lights are NOT self levelling and the fact I don't have self washers, to install HID bulbs is illegal (not that would stop many).

For now I'll fit some bosch performance white bulbs and see how that goes.

Will keep you posted

Marchie 06-02-2012 11:55 AM

Headlights
 
No worries PCC010,
I look forward to the pictures, mate.
I'm from Brisbane as well ! Good luck and hope there a decent quality as they look great from the pictures I've seen. :)

geetee 06-03-2012 10:34 AM

I should be getting my blacked out set in 2-3 weeks.

Marchie 06-03-2012 10:53 AM

Headlights
 
Hi, I know you guys are calling them blacked out , but are they more a smoked look ?

geetee 06-03-2012 07:07 PM

As far as I know, the chrome portion is painted black. This is on the inside not the outer lens.
There is a picture on the 1st page of this thread.

geetee 06-03-2012 07:10 PM

I'm hoping to have these by the end of this month. It's halogen H1 bulb I believe so I'm going to have to find a way to run my aftermarket xenon kit.

PCC010 06-04-2012 04:14 AM

Yep black coated inside similar to most modern cars.

I have an Evo 10 with similar headlights - blends well into the phantom black paintwork.

Geetee, I'm guessing you're referring to the Fog light with the H1 bulb, as the main light is a H7

Marchie 06-04-2012 12:52 PM

Black headlights
 
Hey Guys,
Don't forget to put those pictures up when you get them, looking forward to it.
Thanks.:cheers:


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