03-07-2007, 11:15 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Illinois
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it really is just not that important.....this is my third convertible and I have never had a hardtop for any of them...my brother doesn't have one on his roadster, I think they are pretty pointless.....
as to improved ride performance and rigidity.....I don't know if that's a benefit in the winter....I think you said it best, the cabin warms up just fine....
I wonder the same thing when people say get snow tires and a hardtop when someone says they are thinking about driving it in the winter, snow tires yes....hardtop, save the money....
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03-07-2007, 11:20 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Naperville, IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by super66
it really is just not that important.....this is my third convertible and I have never had a hardtop for any of them...my brother doesn't have one on his roadster, I think they are pretty pointless.....
as to improved ride performance and rigidity.....I don't know if that's a benefit in the winter....I think you said it best, the cabin warms up just fine....
I wonder the same thing when people say get snow tires and a hardtop when someone says they are thinking about driving it in the winter, snow tires yes....hardtop, save the money....
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EXACTLY!!!! The snow tires I can see, but why is a hardtop so necessary?
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03-07-2007, 11:32 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Rochester, NY
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I store mine in the winter, but I always just assumed that extreme cold could take a toll on the plastic window, even if you aren't putting it up and down. I could be wrong though?
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03-07-2007, 11:36 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Naperville, IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 986 Girl
I store mine in the winter, but I always just assumed that extreme cold could take a toll on the plastic window, even if you aren't putting it up and down. I could be wrong though?
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The only problem I've had with my plastic windown was when my dumb-ass put it down when it was about 30 degrees in my garage. That caused a small tear on the edge (there's a thread about it). Other than that my window held up great in the winter.
Hmmm.... still puzzled over this.
BTW, 986 Girl, I would store my Box in the winter too if I lived in Rochester. You have had massive amounts of snow this year. Every morning I send alerts to passengers flying out of Rochester Airport due to deicing I think to myself, "glad I don't live there."
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03-07-2007, 11:42 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Rochester, NY
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Originally Posted by Chills
BTW, 986 Girl, I would store my Box in the winter too if I lived in Rochester. You have had massive amounts of snow this year. Every morning I send alerts to passengers flying out of Rochester Airport due to deicing I think to myself, "glad I don't live there." 
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This is my first real winter ever... for some god awful reason I moved here from Southern California... but I plan to move back there at the end of this summer, if all goes as planned, then I don't have to worry about this anymore!
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03-07-2007, 12:28 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Where the Sewer Meets the Sea, CA. USA
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Originally Posted by 986 Girl
This is my first real winter ever... for some god awful reason I moved here from Southern California... but I plan to move back there at the end of this summer, if all goes as planned, then I don't have to worry about this anymore!
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well atleast when you decide to move back, you have something look forward too like the light skin and freckles fading away into a yellowish bronzeish tan.
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03-07-2007, 12:38 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Canada
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Nothing to do with winter
When I order my new box I will get a hard top ... not for the winter which we do get here in Ont but purely from an aesthetic POV.
Before the Cayman was released, the early spy photos of the hardtop box was that of a notchback, not a hatchback as the Cayman turned out to be.
Hardtop is the only way to turn my box to notchback Cayman.
Bottom line - you either like the looks of it or you don't.
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03-07-2007, 11:47 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Annapolis Maryland
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My hardtop is still hanging on the wall. I didn't put it on this winter.
However, if it's cold and there's no possibility that you're going to be putting the top down anytime soon, why not install the hardtop? It's quieter, warmer and offers better visibility. Your stereo sounds better and there's no possibility that you'll crack your rear window by putting the top down at 30 degrees.
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03-07-2007, 12:22 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,311
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I think the hardtop is more for looks than anything else. The softtop seems to still keep the interior warm enough for me. As for the coment about the rear plastic window cracking in the winter, I would have to agree. It does tend to get harder when it's cold and more elastic and soft when it heats up in the summer making it more flexable and less likely to crimp in on itself when you lower the top. I would also preffer a hard top if I was racing and my car flipped over. I don't trust any kind of role bar to save my head from being crushed. I think it's also a good deterant for thieves. I plastic window is allot easier to cut and get into from the rear than a glass hard top would be. So there are pros and cons for having one as an option. I know if my car wasn't always in a garage I would want a hard top on it, while outside all day. To many of my past cars have been broken into.
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03-07-2007, 12:36 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,709
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this is my second roadster, I skipped hardtops in the begining since I only drive on the weekends. Once I got one I kicked myself for not doing it sooner. Drive a car with the hardtop and you will see right away that the car is better in all driving aspects with a proper roof on it.
Its not so much the weather but the fact that since you won't really be lowering the top for months and months, there is no point in compromising the structure of the car. No matter how well designed a roadster is, the abscence of a roof comes at a cost. Cowl shake and turbulence over rough roads, less rigidity in cornering, more noise, aerodynamics etc..
For a mere $1500 your car essentially becomes a true sports coupe in a five minutes, ideal when top down driving isn't in the cards for a big chunk of the year.
The flurry of retractable hard tops like in the VW EOS, Miata and BMW 3 series tries to bring together the best of both worlds but the extra weight seems to affect most of them. Its really not perfected in any roadster yet.
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