01-23-2007, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by webster132
While it's true that most Porsche's see more miles quicker than Ferrari's, I think you're holding on to an older myth about the differences in maintainability. Since the 360, Ferrari's have had a big jump in reliability. With the 430, the jump was even bigger (chains instead of belts).
From dual owners that I've talked to, lots of them have had issues with the transmission on their 911s when pushing them hard. I've read lots of fun stories about RMS issues too.
So Porsche's are not perfect, no high-performance car is.
Just for another point of reference, I've driven my Lambo 2400 miles in a few months with the only issues being a few squeaks (that were promptly fixed) and a battery that died due to my mistake of leaving the cockpit lights on one night. When the weather is nice, I try to drive the car every night or every other night. There's no garage queening going on here.
I've talked to lots of 360 and Gallardo owners that have had their cars for years with no issues at all.
The world of supercars today is very different from even the mid 90es.
And I have every intent on putting on as many miles as I possible can in these cars. They are so most certainly not for Sundays or shows. I consider them for Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays.
No, I won't be grocery shopping in them. But that's not a question of reliability, but of practicality.
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The fact is Ferrari maintenance and parts cost is 3x vs Porsche. Go figure.
Ferrari 30k miles service 12,000-14,000 USD? I am not surprise see Ferrari on Ebay with 25-28k miles.
Statistics in Car & Driver and every sports car mag in the world will tell you that Porsche is superior to Ferrari.
I agree driving a Ferrari you will pick up Britneys because its red, cute and it purs.
Now give me a mans car -930 slant turbo. Its wide,ugly and roars but it will kick your Ferrari's red ass.
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01-23-2007, 11:26 AM
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Listen he made the purchase already. There is no sense in criticizing his decision and possibly making him feel bad because it's finished already.
I am sure the Ferrari is an AWESOME car and just as good as any Porsche, if not better.
I am sure that rev happy little v8 will be beyond pleasing.
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01-23-2007, 11:47 AM
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porscheracer
"The fact is Ferrari maintenance and parts cost is 3x vs Porsche. Go figure.
Ferrari 30k miles service 12,000-14,000 USD? I am not surprise see Ferrari on Ebay with 25-28k miles.
Statistics in Car & Driver and every sports car mag in the world will tell you that Porsche is superior to Ferrari.
I agree driving a Ferrari you will pick up Britneys because its red, cute and it purs.
Now give me a mans car -930 slant turbo. Its wide,ugly and roars but it will kick your Ferrari's red ass."
A 930 slant will kick the Ferrari's red ass?
I couldn't find anthing to back that up...easy choice for me.
F430
Model Ferrari F430 Spider
Engine type V8, 4308cc
Power/Torque 483bhp @ 8500rpm / 343 lb ft @ 5250rpm
Transmission Six-speed manual or semi-automatic
Performance 0-62mph: 4.1sec / Top speed: 193mph
1/4 Mile 12.30 sec
Model 930 Slant stats
Engine: ~3.0L (2.993 L or 182.64 ci) Flat 6
0-60: 5.5 Seconds
1/4 Mile: 13.6 Seconds
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01-23-2007, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by porscheracer
Now give me a mans car -930 slant turbo. Its wide,ugly and roars but it will kick your Ferrari's red ass.
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Can't you only say stuff like that if you actually own the car?
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01-23-2007, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Kill
Can't you only say stuff like that if you actually own the car?
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Good point. In P.R.'s case, I'm not so sure he owns any car.
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01-23-2007, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Grizzly
Good point. In P.R.'s case, I'm not so sure he owns any car.
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Yeah, and he sounds pretty ignorant too. Typical hater.
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01-23-2007, 09:43 PM
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Web, it doesn't matter what other said about your decision, i dont mind being in your shoes right now..hehehehehe!
when the day comes that you can't decide which one to drive, my offer still stand...i'll decide for you
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01-23-2007, 11:17 PM
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How much did you pay for you 430? I am such a cheap ass I'd want to pay BASE PRICE ONLY, lol.
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01-24-2007, 07:03 PM
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I love the color.
Good for you!
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01-23-2007, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by porscheracer
Ferrari 30k miles service 12,000-14,000 USD?
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This just shows how out of touch you are with reality. For a 360, the cost of a 30k service is $4-5,000. It's certainly not cheap, but about 1/3 of what you think it is. On a 430 it's even cheaper as they changed the main part of the big service from the 360 (replacing and adjusting timing belts, on the 430 they're now chains).
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Originally Posted by porscheracer
Statistics in Car & Driver and every sports car mag in the world will tell you that Porsche is superior to Ferrari.
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Superior how? Being a cheaper car to run? No one is denying that. But by the same logic, a Toyota is a superior car to a Porsche.
Porsches are great cars. No one is denying that. But they're hardly the be and end all of motoring. And considering the fact that the purchase price of a 430 Spider is well north of $250k, I don't think most buyers worry too much about a $5k major service every three years.
To each his own. I'd rather have a Ferrari 360 than a new Porsche Turbo. Even though they're comparable in price, but the Porsche is faster. Just like I'd rather have a 911S than a Z06.
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01-23-2007, 01:59 PM
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Hi,
@webster132 - Congratulations! Beautiful Car! Don't blame you one bit - Good Luck!
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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01-23-2007, 06:09 PM
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Enjoy the car.... don't listen to the camp on this forum.
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