Filled up for $1.78/gallon

[jeffsquire]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

Now lets take a closer look at the CONSENSUS study refered to above and Mr. Gore's book:
With An Inconvenient Truth, the companion book to former Vice President Al Gore’s global-warming movie, currently number nine in Amazon sales rank, this is a good time to point out that the book, which is a largely pictorial representation of the movie’s graphical presentation, exaggerates the evidence surrounding global warming. Ironically, the former Vice President leaves out many truths that are inconvenient for his argument. Here are just 25 of them.

Al Gore Is Captain Planet 11/21
1. Carbon Dioxide’s Effect on Temperature. The relationship between global temperature and carbon dioxide (CO2), on which the entire scare is founded, is not linear. Every molecule of CO2 added to the atmosphere contributes less to warming than the previous one. The book’s graph on p. 66-67 is seriously misleading. Moreover, even the historical levels of CO2 shown on the graph are disputed. .

24. The “Scientific Consensus.” On the supposed “scientific consensus”: Dr. Naomi Oreskes, of the University of California, San Diego, (p. 262) did not examine a “large random sample” of scientific articles. She got her search terms wrong and thought she was looking at all the articles when in fact she was looking at only 928 out of about 12,000 articles on “climate change.” Dr. Benny Peiser, of Liverpool John Moores University in England, was unable to replicate her study. He says, “As I have stressed repeatedly, the whole data set includes only 13 abstracts (~1%) that explicitly endorse what Oreskes has called the ‘consensus view.’ In fact, the vast majority of abstracts does (sic) not mention anthropogenic climate change. Moreover — and despite attempts to deny this fact — a handful of abstracts actually questions the view that human activities are the main driving force of ‘the observed warming over the last 50 years.’” In addition, a recent survey of scientists following the same methodology as one published in 1996 found that about 30 percent of scientists disagreed to some extent or another with the contention that “climate change is mostly the result of anthropogenic causes.” Less than 10 percent “strongly agreed” with the statement. Details of both the survey and the failed attempt to replicate the Oreskes study can be found here.

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Thank you, Brucelee, for that cogent, well thought-out, articulate response to the doomsayers.

Silence is golden. . . .

[z12358]

Originally Posted by jeffsquire

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Thank you, Brucelee, for that cogent, well thought-out, articulate response to the doomsayers.

Silence is golden. . . .

I agree. My panic has subsided to a bearable level and I rarely feel alarmed any more. I even stopped yelling: "Doom!" every morning in the subway like I used to.

Z.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by z12358

I agree. My panic has subsided to a bearable level and I rarely feel alarmed any more. I even stopped yelling: "Doom!" every morning in the subway like I used to.

Z.

Well, as my Grandfather used to say, "no one gets out of here alive, might as well relax!"

[z12358]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

Well, as my Grandfather used to say, "no one gets out of here alive, might as well relax!"

Yeah, we may as well just stick our fingers into our ears, sing "lalalala", and party on. Be it a nuclear holocaust or polution induced self-strangulation, doesn't really matter. Actually, the sooner, the better as we have no time to lose. About half the US population expects the rapture to be coming during their lifetimes, and who'd want to disappoint that many people.

So, heads we win, tails we win. It's all good.

Z.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by z12358

Yeah, we may as well just stick our fingers into our ears, sing "lalalala", and party on. Be it a nuclear holocaust or polution induced self-strangulation, doesn't really matter. Actually, the sooner, the better as we have no time to lose. About half the US population expects the rapture to be coming during their lifetimes, and who'd want to disappoint that many people.

So, heads we win, tails we win. It's all good.

Z.

Of course, no one is advocating any of the drivel you espouse above. We are also not advocating jumping on the Global Warming train without some decent science.

Remember, this stuff is brought to you by some of the very same alamists who were SURE that we were on the verge of a new ice age in 1979 and that the
"Population Bomb" would make us extinct by 1990.

Alarmist always seem to have a following, perhaps you?

BTW-if you are so concerned, I suggest you sell your Porsche and get a nice bicycle. After all, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem!

Remember that line?

[z12358]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

BTW-if you are so concerned, I suggest you sell your Porsche and get a nice bicycle. After all, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem!

Remember that line?

Nah, that's OK. As I said, not alarmed any more. After randomly skimming through and picking a nugget here and there (such as the one below) out of your quite elucidating yet "concise" "contribuiton", I feel much better:

"How to Look at ‘Global Warming’
A very important thing to understand in interpreting all the swill that issues daily from the Global Warming mill (really the anti-industry, anti-population lobby, headed and pumped with money by the Royal Consort Prince Philip, and former Nazi Party member Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands)..."

Now seriously, a necessary prerequisite for a productive discussion is a common agreement on the meaning of: logic (especially this one), facts, science, and proof. I have a feeling (actually had it couple of times before but, forgot) that we are nowhere near reaching this point. My bad for forgetting this and for succumbing blindly to my debating urges again. I'll try not to make this mistake again.

Z.

[SD987]

Rail, that's a nice ride...but you should have gotten the "S".

That vehicle might also come in handy for transporting the amount of BS that has built up in this thread !