Rates of Incarceration
 

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2000/usa/Rcedrg00-01.htm

The disproportionate representation of black Americans in the U.S. criminal justice system is well documented.Blacks comprise 13 percent of the national population, 41 percent of people in jail.
One in three black men between the ages of 20 and 29 was either in jail or prison, or on parole or probation in 1995.One in ten black men in their twenties and early thirties is in prison or jail. Thirteen percent of the black adult male population has lost the right to vote because of felony disenfranchisement laws.

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Hard to keep a family together when all the dads are in the joint....

OMG stop this insane thread that has nothing to do with the car being stolen and smashed. the next fool to post really has too much time on there hands.

gone too far.

Great thread , seeing different views...

A thread on Adolph Hitler's commisioned race car ended up debating Cuba and exiles.

Don't fear enlightment.

Thanks to somebody on this FORUM i discovered i was living in a communist country I just new my parents made a mistake when emigrating to CANADA (AMERICA). :rolleyes:
Guess who the jerk is went on & on & on & on & on about the love for his EX country.
WHO STOPPED THAT HISTORIAN, NOBODY! :mad:
Be careful this is BAIT for all the jerks who think they know it all. :D

PS; And some forum members were disappointed they missed that stupid thread
:o Grow up.

i can't wait until vijen6 checks this post. gonna be like what the!!! what did i start! i think something really is wrong, where did he go............he hasn't replied back!!!

Are we both fools now. :p :p

You didn't owe me an apology, dude. We're just having a conversation.

By the way, the nationwide numbers pretty closely mimic the Federal prison numbers as far as percentages go. I found it in a PDF format, but I'm too stupid to be able to figure out how to copy it here. The long and short of it is that dbth's figures are right on the mark at approximately 41%. My only point was that it was not 85% of the prison population.

ah....yes and I thought I was done here....I stopped reading a lot of what that individual posts because much like in this post its rather rude....regardless of whether he is from that country or not....

I feel for Kronix, I never saw what got him kicked off but I saw a lot of the crap that was being spewed back and forth disrespecting Canada.....enough is enough

I'm cool thanks :cheers:

i agree..he better log back in, soon! and tell us the details...been calling him but no answer on his phone. we live like a mile from each other...

While I see all sides, we can't delete the thread. For the same reason its a crime to deny the holocaust existed. I dont agree with a lot that has been said, but im tolerant of it. I just know that if Im in the ghetto and I see a group of white people (looking like there up to no good) approaching my car, im gonna run the red light and drive the heck away. Ive had a friend almost get their corvette carjacked by some black people, luckily he hauled but outta there. While we can all agree that there are undesirables in the world, its our own fault. I dont know how we can fix it, but there will always be a bad egg in a good family, and its the social and economic environment that really dictates a childs future. And yes, there will always be a good egg that overcomes adversity and does fine. I think that 80% of the world is dictated by the family/ environment, and 10% will be good no matter what, and 10% will be bad no matter what.

Hi Jonathan did u paint your rear diffusers yet and if yes how did they turn out :)

Hey, no. I got my bumper today though :) My mom said that if I called around and found a good shop that she would pay for it. So Im expecting a $500-700 quote for bumper, sideskirts, and diffusers. Kinda saddened me but a profesional paint booth would give the parts the love and attention they need, lol. BTW, how can I tell if the GT3 bumper is urethane. I can push on the front top of it and have it give some, but the back of it looks like a fiberglass weave. Can anyone who took their bumper off describe the back of it to me. Sorry for the hijack

If your talking about the OEM front bumper the back side of mine is smooth no weave. The GT3 bumper u got could be a urethane reinforced with fiberglass not sure and urethane is much heavier than fiberglass.
I hope this helps :)

Some observations

1). BruceLee is enlightened.

2). Here comes a generalization: People are so uptight about race, even when they're tryin to be cool about it. (Note: I was going to write "white people" but deleted "white" cause this applies to everyone but especially "patronizing whites")

3). Why are self righteous people so dorky?

4). Non-sequitur: The other day on my morning commute, I stopped at a red light. A young suit on a cell phone decided to cut through a corner parking lot rather than wait for the light and zipped into the lot. The morning sun must have blinded him cause he smacked head on into the cement base of a light pole. He crumpled the front, the hood popped open and steam shot out. It was f'n great!!

Again, for the record, Kronix was banned for his profanity laced PM to me and his direct threats to assault me if he hever saw me in person.

We don't really like it when the owner is threatened. It makes him testy!

Non-sequitur: The other day on my morning commute, I stopped at a red light. A young suit on a cell phone decided to cut through a corner parking lot rather than wait for the light and zipped into the lot. The morning sun must have blinded him cause he smacked head on into the cement base of a light pole. He crumpled the front, the hood popped open and steam shot out. It was f'n great!!

Now, that would be funny to see!

http://www.hoover.org/pubaffairs/dailyreport/archive/2867071.html

For anyone with an interest in a rationale and rigorous discussion of race and racism in America, I recommend Shelby Steele's papers and books.

See above for a sample.

Thanks

Oh my, I think I am being called a jerk! One thing about Canadians is they never stop whining. It comes from being born in a country where everything is a big #2 to the US. Soon though you will be living in the country of Quebec so you will not be Canadian much longer. Once they frenchies take control of everything we will see how fast you head back to America.

And, by the way, Knoxnuts was kicked off for something completely unrelated to me. It was after he was kicked off that he returned to threaten and kill me for giving out honest information on Canadian culture.

Ok, todays joke:

An American, a Scot and a Canuk were in a terrible car accident. They were all brought to the same emergency room, but all three of them died before they arrived. Just as they were about to put the toe tag on the American, he stirred and opened his eyes. Astonished, the doctors and nurses present asked him what happened.

"Well," said the American, "I remember the crash, and then there was a beautiful light, and then the Canadian and the Scot and I were standing at the gates of heaven. St. Peter approached us and said that we were all too young to die, and that for a donation of $100, we could return to the earth."

He continued, " So of course, I pulled out my wallet and gave him the $100, and the next thing I knew I was back here."

"That's amazing!" said one of the doctors, "But what happened to the other two?"

"Last I saw them," replied the American, "the Scot was haggling over the price and the Canadian was waiting for the government to pay for his."

Wow .. wtf did I start here .. LOL .. I was using the term 'African American' to be politically correct. My fault I guess. Haha.

I was driving along on a flat road, and this big SUV rolls up behind me. I didn't really notice though, because I was just cruising, top down, with my music on. Light turns green, I start to get going, then they honked at me. I figure ok .. whatever .. they want me to go faster .. so I switch over to the open lane and went off .. I guess the SUV was still stuck in traffic.

Next light, I looked back and they were about 4 cars back behind me in the left lane. Whatever. Light turns green again, I took off normally. They cut off 2 - 3 cars across 3 lanes to get on my right side, and caught up to me quick since I was just going speed limit. Driver started to yell at me. Pull your car over. Pull over NOW! Screaming. I asked him why? He screamed out again, you hit my car. Pull over NOW.

I was thinking WTF. When did I hit his car? No bump, no whatever. So I replied and said I didn't hit your car. Then the driver swerved trying to bump me off the road while his passengers kept screaming at me to pull over. I almost pulled over, but then I saw the guy in the back reach down and pull something out. Got only a quick look but it looked like a chrome gun to me.

My mind started going into panic mode.

Situation: 4 angry 'african american' dressed in 'gangster thug' style road raging. Trying to run me off the road. Possible gun in the back. I'm by myself. **************** that.

I downshifted and took off. Racing down Aborn (45 speed limit) at about 120 (stupid .. i know) . Lost them about 20-30 cars behind me, I braked hard and made a left turn. Then hard again to the right. Since I know the area pretty well, I figure I'll lose them. Keep in mind, my brain was still in panic mode trying to avoid getting shot. I smoked my brakes again into two other right turns trying to swing back on Aborn. I guess at the next turn, my brakes were at their limit because it BARELY slowed my car down at all. I was going about 15mph too fast for the turn and swiped my right side against a light pole.

Seeing how I was out in the open street, I was scared that those guy were still chasing me, looking for me, so I hobbled the car into a side street and just went into someone's covered parking space to hide. Then ran two houses down and jumped the fence into the guys yard. I immediately called 911 and told them where I was, and that I think 4 guys with gun was trying to kill me. While waiting for the police to come, I peaked out to the main street and saw the black SUV driving by, obviously still looking for me. If I had left my car at the scene of the accident, then 100% sure the SUV would have found the car and maybe me too.

It took about 5 minutes for the police to get on scene. 4 squad cars came. I saw them and ran out waving my hand. I told them the whole story but 1/2 the police didn't believe me. They thought I was driving wreckless, hit my car, and now am trying to make up a story since they didn't see any suspicious black SUV when they came in. The ranking officer on scene sat on me on the sidewalk like I was a Mexican about to be deported. People drove by were staring. =T

They look at the accident and made some call then told me they were going to handle it as an accident. I hit the light pole, so it is an at fault accident, and I should deal with my insurance company. Then they called my parents to come pick me up and called a tow truck for the car and left. No police report. Didn't even take down my license. Wow. I guess thats police work for you.

Anyways, damage report:

My front bumper is smashed. Lithtronic I am not sure need to be replaced or not, but atleast the little corner light is smashed. Fender is scrapped. Front rim is cracked. Front and rear tires on the right side is torn. Control arm? was broken so that my rim was sitting on only struts. When I was at the shop the rim was at a 90% angle to the car?

Right now I am waiting for adjuster to come out and look at the damage. Hopefully they cover 100% - my deductable.

I think now is a good time to upgrade my bumper to the turbo look. Where is a good place to find GOOD fitting after market parts, or should I just go with stock OEM?

I like the bumper style here ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PORSCHE-BOXSTER-GT-2-BODY-KIT-BUMPER-SKIRTS-N-SPOILER_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36475QQihZ007QQ itemZ170058070610QQrdZ1 ), but it is Ebay, so I dont know if I am getting crap quality or not.

Anyone buy from these guys before?

Sorry for the long wait before I posted the story, but I am swamped with work this week. 60 hours of work + waiting for rides because my insurance have not given me a free rental yet.

Urgg .. I need a beer tonight. LOL

PS. I remember there was this website that listed all the bumper available for Boxsters, 911 and if it fitted. Cant seem to find it now. Anyone have the link?

Sorry about that incident ... most guys in Detroit just wave, honk, or give me a thumbs-up.

On a lighter note: An American, Canadian, and Brit were in a bar. They each ordered a draft beer. It was hot and the flies were all over the place. Immediately a fly lands in the Brits' glass; he stares with disgust and pushes it away. The American gets a fly, kind of shrugs, picks it out and continues on. The Canadian, with a fly, looks at his beer, picks out the fly and says: "Spit it out you little bastard".

:-)

That is a good joke! Thanks

That bumpers pretty ricery, but the lip makes it unbearable. I liked the one pic with the bumper and the normal lip. One time I had some African americans in a big black SUV driving beside me and yelled at me, they said they wanted to buy my car, so I said 20,000, they said OK and held up the most gigantic roll of 100's ive seen in my life. Needless to say I just turned at the next street, but damn they had some bling (chains, grills, grills for the SUV, chrome 22's, big subs, and a white girl driving them around). Amazing how different 2 situations can be that started the same.

Guess i'm having fresh fish for supper tonight :p

Thank you for acknowledging that you're the jerk. :D :D :D

hey cartagena i read one of your posts, and apparently you are born and raised in canada. how dare you insult your homeland, pretty low, you pretty much are making fun of yourself...hhaahaha.

vigen6 glad to see that you survived. that's one crazy story, you should of got the licence plate...

I left Canada because I did not want to live under communist rule anymore. I have not insulted Canada, I have only stated some cold hard facts that Canadians do not like to hear.

I made these comments a long time ago. And yet, these whining Canadians keep bringing them up in this forum, again and again. For instance, Franco felt compelled to talk about me in this thread even though I said nothing about Canada here. I, however, would expect no less whining from someone who lives in Quebec.

I do not consider myself Canadian anymore as it is too painful to remember the living in that horrible socialist nightmare world. My ancestors comes from Britain and Germany so I like to think of Canada as an accident that happened to my family for over a 100 years.

Today's Joke:

Q: What is the difference between a Canadian and a canoe?

A: A canoe tips!

well after the post that you just put up. looks like you haven't lost your whining ways.

holy cow
 

Boy, where to begin.

Bruce lee, once again please don’t delete this. You’d only be fueling pot-stirrers of polical correctness. I agree with everything you say about hyphenated racial characteristics in addressing race in this country. It doenst matter. In fact I find it ridiculous. But just remember the thread started with this:

This story involves 4 cop cars, a fence jump, 3-4 african americans with a possible gun, a light pole, and last but not least, my porsche. Just need some drugs content and a few females and this could be a block buster movie.

Followed by this:

Hummm African Americans involved in a crime..are you sure? according to Reverend Al they don't do such things, they just get bad press from the Po Po.

Followed by this:

I am sure they were just fine young men who wanted to possess something the white man stole from their ancestors. Thousands of years ago they were all kings and queens who probably had their own car very similar to today's Porsche.

Then Grizz posted this:

This thread is well on its way to being deleted by the forum Police. Please be careful gentlemen, so I can learn what actually happened to the car.

Followed by a modicum of reason by this:

wow who cares what colour they were, and where they came from and where they went......not one of you asked the guy if he was okay! hope you are okay vijen6, don't worry about the car, it can be fixed. please do fill us in. looks like some guys tried to steal the ride, but also seems like they got caught.

Grizz then opined that we need the facts. But I submit that it doesn’t even matter. Who cares if his white porsche was destroyed by the criminal agency of black men? Is his car any less damaged? No.The point is: who is the progenator of hyphens and color/race on this thread? Obviously race still matters to some. Hell, they damaged his car!!!

Finally, after all the debate, hoopla, anger and stats, we still heard this:

4 angry 'african american' dressed in 'gangster thug' style road raging. Trying to run me off the road. Possible gun in the back. I'm by myself. **************** that.. ……The ranking officer on scene sat on me on the sidewalk like I was a Mexican about to be deported.

I find this incredulous, but hey, the RX/Mustang/Rvand other dotcoms have gotta be laughing about who really lurks in the dark corridors of 986 Forum.
Finally, let me quote Grizz: I'm very disappointed. . . .
I’ll leave this dead horse to be beaten. . . . .. .

So what we have here is a group of black men attacked a white forum member while he was harmlessly driving around in his Porsche. That seems to be an accurate description of the events and I see no reason why we should not describe it as such.

Problem is you cannot say the truth anymore because you might offend the gangster blacks, the Canadians (especially the humorless french ones) or even the Cubans which is incredibly ironic since Cubans openly distinguish themselves from one another by about 10 different shades of pigmentation.

Mamma mia ma che stanno dicendo questi ragazzi. :)

Je ne comprend pas ce qui se passe ici. :confused:

These posts are fascinating, so many point of views and ways of describing an event.

I have to say, if I saw four young men dressed in "gangsta" style clothing in a large SUV motioning ME to stop, I would NOT do so and assume the worst; better to be safe than sorry. So, I live and I MIGHT be assuming guilt where there is none. So be it.

Again to me, it is not the skin pigment, it is the total package. Guys who dress in "gangsta fashions" simply give me the whillies and make me want to find a better place to be. White, black or tan pigment, I am out of there when the rest of the package is present.

If four guys in Brooks Brothers suits motioned to me, I might feel totally the other way. Likely I would.

Does that make me a "clothes bigot?" I think so. It also is driven by my survival instincts which try to alert me to when there is danger, when there is not.

Do men who where this garb statistically represent a greater degree of danger. I THINK so, if you believe the news reports we see every day.

Lastly, what is fascinating is that virtually every news report of crime in the USA starts with the color of the suspects skin, ie, four white men or four black men were arrested today. They COULD just say four teenagers or four men in their twenties, etc. but they don't.

Could it be that the news media are closet bigots? Or, just reporting the more obvious elements of how you describe someone to the police for example?

What say you, are we being LED to this type of communication by our news media types?

[QUOTE=Brucelee]These posts are fascinating, so many point of views and ways of describing an event. QUOTE]

I think they are fascinating too because it brings out the closet racists :D At least now I know who I'm dealing with...I don't judge anyone for crossing the street when they feel threatend. Good for them and everyone else for staying alive. I judge people by the disparaging comments that they make.

And I have no issues with the use of African-American. My issue is the comments that were made, but you lose some you win some.

And to vijen6, for this comment "The ranking officer on scene sat on me on the sidewalk like I was a Mexican about to be deported" I am completly thrilled you wrecked your car. And I'm glad the officers didn't believe your story as it is totally unfounded and you maybe were just drunk driving. Too bad you didn't knock some sense into your head when you hit the pole :D

Got to love the free expression! Learn something new everyday.

Super66, if I offended you with my comment, i apologize.

I was merely trying to describe my feeling at the time. My obvious embarrassment. Perhaps it was not express with the best choice of words, or perhaps your brand of humor is not the same as mine.

Lets drop the topic of race all together.

I'll make another topic to seek help on bumper fitments and such.

THANKS EVERYONE FOR THEIR KIND WORDS AND CONCERN!!

Its much appreciated.

Funny, really, Brucelee? I'm disappointed in you. I think this board is going downhill fast. Too many immature points of view. And no, Vijen, I don't believe your story either. Learn to drive. Stay away from light poles, and also maybe thugs in SUVs. If there was an SUV involved at all, you probably cut them off and they were ticked. Your attitude reeks with your own self acknowledged superiority.

Hit and Run
 

My aunt who is a doctor was on her way to visit me when a car with 3 black youths hit her car from behind. Her car's rear end was badly damage and luckly she was unhurt. The black youths who hit her car jolted!
She called me from her cell phone and I drove to pick it her up. I notice there was a NYPD car infront of Macdonalds so I ran there to inform the cops. When I walked into Macdonalds I notice there were two black youths laying on the floor handcuffed. I don't what happen in Macdonalds but this was another crime commited.
I told the cops what happend they called for backup and 10 min later the cops arrived and wrote up a report. It appears the car that hit my aunt's was a stolen car from CT.

My best friend is a NYPD cop and he can write a book about crimes in NYC.

if you want bumper fitment advice, dont get fiberglass..., Mine fits fine, but its not as easy to put on as OEM

Old Man Riverrrrrrrr

That Old Man Riverrrrrrr

Just keeps rollin' alonggggggg

I get really tired of how dominant the Politically Correct thing has become, and just how militant some can be in its defense. :ah: :ah: :ah:

Sorry about your wreck. Now would be a great time to go with the GT3 bumper. Get the OEM one. They are pretty reasonable on eBay. You can also find the stock bumper cover there as well.

i couldnt agree more with you thumper. its not about being defensive. more about why someone would comment on the colour of skin, and over look the fact that the guy got into an accident. instead, they decided to make smart ass comments in regards to african americans, which had nothing to do with the accident. the story is no different if it was a bunch of white guys or black guys, he still would of tried to get away. just some "jerks" who decided to pick up on the fact that they werent surprised that it was done by a specific race.

Sorry to hear about your car. My experience has been that an insurance company will pretty much tell you to go pound sand if you don't have a police report filed.

Why cant i make light of the subject of the geographical locations of where african americans may or may not live.

Im Spanish and Irish and I hear Black comedians make light of how many burritos I eat in a day, how many of my relatives live in one house,How any of us fit into a volkswagon beetle and how much I drink tequila and walk around in "chanklas" sandals. Loads and Loads of stereo types and im fine with it and they area funny too and i laugh at them.

But im sure your ok with racial jokes from black comedians because you have this guilt issue about slaverary so you let it slide, although you werent alive in that era. You probably feel the need to cry racisizm everytime you hear a black joke. Well I dont get offended when i hear irish or spanish/mexican jokes and neither should anyone else just as long as they arent hateful messages disguised as a joke.

By your definition of racisit, 85% of black comedians are racisit cause majority of black comedian material consists of making fun of other races... and they are funny as hell, ie: dave chappel... must be the black-KKK poster child by super66 definition of racisim!