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Jeph 12-04-2006 04:43 PM

Name that Bumper
 
Is this a standard bumper for an 02-04 Carrera? Or is an aero bumper or something like that? Anyone? When requesting this for my car, what do I call it?

http://66.98.248.89/y2k-usa/03C4Silver36K/MVC-002S.JPG

Allen K. Littlefield 12-04-2006 04:58 PM

Bumper?
 
Jeph, if you are planning on putting this bumper on your boxster, how do you plan on getting around the difference in the headlight area?

986geezer

RandallNeighbour 12-04-2006 05:29 PM

That ain't no simple bumper replacement... you'll have to upgrade your lights, front fenders and hood as well me thinks.

98Boxster98 12-04-2006 05:36 PM

Jeph:

Sorry about your recent Boxster misfortune. Tell the truth - you were doing a mini-Gumball with Rail26, weren't you?

Here's a recent thread that may help.

http://986forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6572

Jeph 12-04-2006 07:07 PM

As luck would have it, my car will be requiring new quarter panels, bumper, and headlights according to the initial estimate. I don't know that I'll need a new hood for this transformation, but mine is dented and scrathed pretty good. At any rate, now is the time to pull the trigger on this update...

I don't want the Turbo bumper, as it doesn't flow so well with the Boxster, in my opinion.

I tweaked my photoshop job a little more... I think this looks epically cool! Especially with the lowering.

http://www.kryzak.com/storage/986-ca...conversion.jpg

Rail26 can't hang wif my mad driving skills.

98Boxster98 12-04-2006 07:47 PM

Okay, but you're going to need side skirts (Just trying to save Perfectlap some typing time.)

djomlas 12-04-2006 07:47 PM

nice chop, i like that a lot.

now also do a caymen version

Grizzly 12-04-2006 08:05 PM

If I remember correctly, you need the bumper, fenders, lights and inner fenders, but not the hood.

Grizzly 12-04-2006 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeph
I tweaked my photoshop job a little more... I think this looks epically cool! Especially with the lowering.

Rail26 can't hang wif my mad driving skills.

Can you change the hood badge to silver? That would totally complete it for me.

Jeez, I think I might mash mine all up just so I can do this conversion.

Jeph 12-04-2006 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98Boxster98
I think its the 996 Aero kit '99-01. See the link below for a pic.

http://www.shophyperformance.com/store/001881.html?id=ktbZFtQZ

That's not it... that one looks like Jay Leno's chin... I don't like it. The one I've pictured is more subtle and scoopy.

And if PerfectLap were reading this, he would definately say it needs skirts... but with the particular bumper I have selected, it still looks smooth sans the additional cladding. My beef with the side skirts is that I feel like they won't age well over time. I worry that, over time, it will look dated-ish. That's just me.

A Cayman front doesn't cut it for me djomlas. I'm not a fan of blending the 987 look with the 986. Plus I don't care for the positioning of the Cayman's foglights all that much.

Check this... this is the picture of my car I chopped up for this Photoshop job... Even without the new front end, it has come a long way.

http://www.kryzak.com/storage/986-donor.jpg
...evil amber

djomlas 12-04-2006 08:29 PM

i have that 987 bumper still....hmmm, all i need is some fenders and headlight then ha?

how much are fenders for 987?

Jeph 12-04-2006 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzly
Can you change the hood badge to silver? That would totally complete it for me.

Jeez, I think I might mash mine all up just so I can do this conversion.

Cool, I never even thought about that... that would look fresh... monochromatic. Hmm...

http://www.kryzak.com/storage/986-ca...onversion2.jpg

Just the other day I was thinking about getting the euro bumper if ever I got rear-ended... I really needed some forward thinking I guess.

98Boxster98 12-04-2006 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeph
That's not it... that one looks like Jay Leno's chin... I don't like it. The one I've pictured is more subtle and scoopy.

Rats! I tried to delete the post when I realized it wasn't right. You're right on the subtlety of that bumper.

Jeph 12-04-2006 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djomlas
i have that 987 bumper still....hmmm, all i need is some fenders and headlight then ha?

how much are fenders for 987?

I think a conversion to a 987 or Cayman front would be more extensive than what I'm trying to accomplish. Your idea would be hard because the 986 & 987 are considerably different body styles.

98Boxster98 12-04-2006 08:37 PM

................No?

djomlas 12-04-2006 09:01 PM

so u dont think that 987 fenders will be a direct bolt on to a 986?

reason y im asking is couse i already have a 987 S front bumper and grilles, that bout 800 bux worth of part rite there that i have.

also, is the hood the same on 987 and 986?

986Roadster 12-05-2006 05:45 AM

that's a sweet conversion, i love those turbo lights on the boxster. i say stick with this turbo conversion then to go 987. i personally think that these 996 turbo lights are far nicer. just my opinion.

seeeya

djomlas 12-05-2006 08:29 AM

i like those too, but since i already have a brand new never installed bumper cover and grilles for it it cuts my cost down a lot, and it will still give me a nice facelift, not that i dont like the way my box already looks.

i am just still not sure if the fenders will bolt up

David_J 12-05-2006 08:56 AM

I posted this same question about a week ago as I too am considering the switch. I need to get some litronics, but didn't want to buy them if I was going to do the conversions.

I think I will be going this route, but may use the GT3 bumper instead

http://www.emeraldcitycustoms.com/images/gt3.jpg

-David

djomlas 12-05-2006 09:13 AM

i think that the hood is different as well for the 987 so this is going nowhere lol

Jeph 12-05-2006 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djomlas
i think that the hood is different as well for the 987 so this is going nowhere lol

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a different hood. What are you doing with all those 987 parts anyway?

I don't like the Turbo or GT3 bumper... those demand I get side skirts. (I'm really suprised PerfectLap hasn't chimed in.)

So, to address my original post, does no one know what that original bumper is? Just standard issue on 02-04 Carreras?

boggtown 12-05-2006 10:51 AM

Ya, looks standard. I remember some guy who did the conversion, said it was expensive. He was selling a carbon fiber hood, I think thats how I found his site.

djomlas 12-05-2006 10:52 AM

i kinda got stuck w the 987 parts, my friend was gonna get them replaced on his car, but then figured it was cheper to get his fixed than get new ones, so now im stuck w these lol

i put it up for sale, but no interest yet, i guess wrong time of year to sell these since barely anyone drives their 987 in winter

europwr 12-05-2006 02:44 PM

Hey All,

I did the conversion back in 2000. I have all 4 OEM bumpers.

Carrera
Turbo
GT2
GT3

By far the GT2 has been my favorite.

I did this conversion in a matter of a few hours. I have also done it on a few other cars. You will need alot of little parts...it all adds up.

Take a look!

http://www.customdcdesigns.com/GT986/IMG_1925.JPG

I also have the euro rear bumper:

http://www.customdcdesigns.com/GT986/IMG_1855.JPG

David_J 12-05-2006 02:59 PM

europwr,

Do you by chance have a list of the items you will need? I know of the following:

Fenders
Fender liners
Lights w/harness
Front bumper

Also, what side skirts do you have on your car?

Thanks,
David

RandallNeighbour 12-05-2006 03:03 PM

Euro, that first BIG pic looks like the Turbo bumper, right?

aBsOlUt 12-05-2006 03:05 PM

europwr,

You car looks fantastic except the yellow headlights. I love the black/silver combo you are doing there and the lights imo are a bit off.

Awesome.

europwr 12-05-2006 03:20 PM

I actually created a whole list of parts and directions. I have it filed away somewhere. I am actually doing another conversion this weekend.

That first pic in this thread is just a regular Carrera bumper.

Thanks for the comments....the lights always get mixed feelings. With having the euro bumpers and stuff I decided to create the complete euro look with yellow headlights...kinda like French fogs on Bimmers.

98Boxster98 12-05-2006 03:33 PM

I looked over at the garage at Renntech. You shouldn't doubt yourself. Looks like you were right all along. Your car is going to look great. I like to monochromatic look.

2003 Carrera (996) C2 Coupe (owner: kristap)

Jeph 12-05-2006 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98Boxster98
I looked over at the garage at Renntech. You shouldn't doubt yourself. Looks like you were right all along. Your car is going to look great. I like to monochromatic look.

2003 Carrera (996) C2 Coupe (owner: kristap)

^ that Carrera looks like it's got a lift kit on it!

That front end is perfect -down to the lack of headlight washers -no wait, it's got the wrong crest. Still, that's how I want my car to look.

99BoxsterATL 12-06-2006 05:21 AM

Where can I get a set of those intake scoops that are black on the side of the Boxster in the large pictures??? They Double Tape on?

David_J 12-12-2006 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by europwr
I actually created a whole list of parts and directions. I have it filed away somewhere. I am actually doing another conversion this weekend.

Were you able to find your parts lists? I am getting ready to order the parts and if you have the list already together, that would make things much easier for me.

Let me know.

Thanks,
David

Perfectlap 12-13-2006 06:01 AM

I like the GT2 the most, although I would go with a silver hood if I'm sticking with Factory look wheels and more subltle side skirting. In silver, the intake louvers that go directly below the hood breaks up the silver in a nice flowing manner.
I actually ordered that louver from DEVEK and was going to try and retrofit it to my GT3 MK1 bumper (holes lines up perfectly) but it never happened.
http://www.mashaw.com/Graphics/GT-2frontbumper.jpg

I've seen a Boxster with a 02-04 Standard Carrera facelift and I wasn't too impressed. I think it photographs better than it looks in person. My lady passenger on a quick glance said "I can't tell the difference". But girls always say that.
Either way you can't lose, those headlights are awesome, the best ever to grace a 911. Too bad they didn't stick those on the CaymanS and new Boxster. The Cayman would have been perfect that way, like a mini 911 with a nicer rear.

p.s.
that was an excellent photoshop, I'd love to see it done with the GT2 front end.
p.s.s.
All 911 and Boxsters on 18" wheels look 100% better with sideskirts, otherwise it looks jacked up when compared to one with aero. Makes it look lower, wider, longer, best mod I've done by far. I once had to convince several non-Porsche people that my car was a Boxster.

porsche986spyder 02-08-2007 10:44 AM

This is the same front end and conversion I did too...
 
Mine is fiberglass and I bought it of of a Prsche aftermarket web site. I paid about $900-950. Can't remember which.

porsche986spyder 02-08-2007 10:46 AM

This is the same front end and conversion I did too...
 
Mine is fiberglass and I bought it of of a Prsche aftermarket web site. It is the GT-2, I paid about $900. I added an extra set of fog lights and used black mesh instead of silver. Here is the web site. http://www.precisionporsche.com/boxkit.html
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...h/IMG_3570.jpg

vijen6 02-15-2007 12:48 PM

I have been looking at a few of these auctions on ebay. Seems they make several knock off styles for the boxster.

How is the fitment?

Any issues installing?

How would u rate the quality from 1-10?

$900 is STEEP for a fiberglass front bumper. Thats almost carbon / carbon price.

Perfectlap 02-15-2007 01:36 PM

yes very steep, that's why I went with the factory GT3 bumper from DPS Motorsport. I wouldn't spend more than $500 on any one fiberglass due to its fragility.

porsche986spyder 02-15-2007 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vijen6
I have been looking at a few of these auctions on ebay. Seems they make several knock off styles for the boxster.

How is the fitment?

Any issues installing?

How would u rate the quality from 1-10?

$900 is STEEP for a fiberglass front bumper. Thats almost carbon / carbon price.

Fitment is great!

No problems installing

I would say 10 out of 10! I love it.

I don't think $900.00 is steep for a Porsche GT-2 copy. Some of the other bumpers are cheaper because of the type of front end that they are copied from, (i.e. turbo, or type "s" front end). Polyurethane is the way to go. I'm not a big fan of the Fiberglass, but I have had no problems with it so far. And it's been on my car for 8 months now.

vijen6 02-15-2007 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche986spyder
Fitment is great! I would say 10 out of 10! I love it.

Glad to hear re: the fitment. Your car looks great!!

Below is a bit of a rant, so feel free to skip it.

In regard to the 'steepness' of the price:

From purely a production standpoint, a bumper is a bumper. Sure, it cost more to buy a GT2 bumper from Porsche to make the mold. However, once you have the mold produced, the cost to reproduce is about the same.

Assuming this is chop mat sprayed on fiberglass (the type used to make 99% of bodykits on ebay), it would cost roughly the same to make as a honda civic front bumper

On top of that, the mold is most likely cheaper as they pull 100s of copies off the civic mold, so it would need to be much stronger (more $$).

Thats is the only reason I said these bumper were extremely steep in price when compared with production cost. These guys can charge whatever they wants since I guess they 'cornered' the market in boxster bumpers.

If there was more competition (more ppl making ans elling boxster stuff), these bumpers would be selling for $200-$300 like every other fiberglass bumper on ebay.

TriGem2k 02-15-2007 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche986spyder
Fitment is great!

No problems installing

I would say 10 out of 10! I love it.

I don't think $900.00 is steep for a Porsche GT-2 copy. Some of the other bumpers are cheaper because of the type of front end that they are copied from, (i.e. turbo, or type "s" front end). Polyurethane is the way to go. I'm not a big fan of the Fiberglass, but I have had no problems with it so far. And it's been on my car for 8 months now.

Just by looking at the picture below I can already see gap differences on your bumper.

I know Tony from Precision Porsche, ALMOST bought some stuff from him. His fiberglass work is good but not great. I have yet to see 10 out of 10 from anything he has copied.

Also pictures are never a great show of fitment and if you can tell fitment problems from a picture then its probably much worse in person.

Just my $.02


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