Bumper opinions

[azlvr]

Nice! Which brand is it? Those are some expensive mirrors and my daughter just moved to your city.
Poly or fiberglass? I like where the running lights are, haven't seen that.

[JBauer]

Originally Posted by azlvr

Nice! Which brand is it? Those are some expensive mirrors and my daughter just moved to your city.
Poly or fiberglass? I like where the running lights are, haven't seen that.

Expensive bumper there.

[azlvr]

Originally Posted by JBauer

Expensive bumper there.

Agreed! If it’s poly it’s interesting. I haven’t seen one in that style with lights in that area.

[drill3r]

Ingo Noak Tuning

bought it straight from them many years ago and it was cheaper even with the freight shipping from europe, than buying from a US distributor.

It's fiberglass, and I had it along with the side skirts and trunk installed by a auto restorer.

Way back then, if i remember correctly, the problem with poly is that if it doesn't fit well you'll never get it to fit well. If you know how to work with fiberglass you can get it to fit well and you can repair it.

of course, for DIY, i would've picked the easier way which might by poly, but i knew i wasn't going to do it myself.

[JBauer]

Originally Posted by drill3r

Ingo Noak Tuning

Way back then, if i remember correctly, the problem with poly is that if it doesn't fit well you'll never get it to fit well. If you know how to work with fiberglass you can get it to fit well and you can repair it.

of course, for DIY, i would've picked the easier way which might by poly, but i knew i wasn't going to do it myself.

So fiberglass fits great but you had to pay a body shop to fit it???? 🤷 Dont get me wrong it's a great looking bumper but most fiberglass bumpers fit like crap. That's why factory bumpers are polyurethane.
My polyurethane fit without any work from a body shop. Heres a pic of it out of the box and held on by the top 2 screws. I painted it and hung it.

[drill3r]

i'm not talking about oem bumpers, but aftermarket ones.

i don't know if the quality control has changed in the last ten years, but before i bought a bumper people were saying that these businesses that sell poly bumpers didn't have the best molds and such and people that bought poly bumpers couldn't modify them if they didn't fit right. you don't know how these small businesses store their molds and how they check their products or if they've made copies of other businesses' bumpers, copies of copies of copies are possible in other words.

thanks for letting me know that oem bumpers fit well and have good QC.

[azlvr]

Originally Posted by drill3r

i'm not talking about oem bumpers, but aftermarket ones.

i don't know if the quality control has changed in the last ten years, but before i bought a bumper people were saying that these businesses that sell poly bumpers didn't have the best molds and such and people that bought poly bumpers couldn't modify them if they didn't fit right. you don't know how these small businesses store their molds and how they check their products or if they've made copies of other businesses' bumpers, copies of copies of copies are possible in other words.

thanks for letting me know that oem bumpers fit well and have good QC.

I had a long conversation with an owner of one of the bumper mfg that's been in the business since the 80's and said the problem with fiberglass is stress cracks. he said poly is the way to go so that leaves limited options. I do body and paint as a hobby on my own stuff so wasn't to worried about fiberglass but don't want to fix it all the time unless I damage it. Another option I just ran across on YouTube was grafting a newer OEM bumper to existing one. Looks interesting.

[JBauer]

Originally Posted by drill3r

i'm not talking about oem bumpers, but aftermarket ones.

i don't know if the quality control has changed in the last ten years, but before i bought a bumper people were saying that these businesses that sell poly bumpers didn't have the best molds and such and people that bought poly bumpers couldn't modify them if they didn't fit right. you don't know how these small businesses store their molds and how they check their products or if they've made copies of other businesses' bumpers, copies of copies of copies are possible in other words.

thanks for letting me know that oem bumpers fit well and have good QC.

That post was about my aftermarket polyurethane bumper.

[drill3r]

Originally Posted by JBauer

So fiberglass fits great but you had to pay a body shop to fit it???? 🤷 Dont get me wrong it's a great looking bumper but most fiberglass bumpers fit like crap. That's why factory bumpers are polyurethane.
My polyurethane fit without any work from a body shop. Heres a pic of it out of the box and held on by the top 2 screws. I painted it and hung it.

um, yeah, but you said, "That's why factory bumpers are polyurethane."

i'm pretty sure an aftermarket company is capable of making a crappy fitting poly bumper. using the same material as the oem factory doesn't guarantee good fit.

but other forum members that went down the bumper route told me crappy fitting poly bumpers will never fit while fiberglass ones can be made to fit.

[azlvr]

Originally Posted by drill3r

Ingo Noak Tuning

bought it straight from them many years ago and it was cheaper even with the freight shipping from europe, than buying from a US distributor.

It's fiberglass, and I had it along with the side skirts and trunk installed by a auto restorer.

Way back then, if i remember correctly, the problem with poly is that if it doesn't fit well you'll never get it to fit well. If you know how to work with fiberglass you can get it to fit well and you can repair it.

of course, for DIY, i would've picked the easier way which might by poly, but i knew i wasn't going to do it myself.

It looks like they no longer have 986/996 parts and no language conversion.

[drill3r]

Originally Posted by azlvr

It looks like they no longer have 986/996 parts and no language conversion.

yeah, when they did have the parts i used google translate and figured it out.

it was funny to me to do it that way, but i saved hundreds of dollars even paying duties and the freight shipping.