How much for oil change?

[ukchris]

$20 Filter, About $50 for oil and $12 of culled 2"x12" from Home Depot. Drive on, drain, wait, fill, drive off!

Originally Posted by ukchris

$20 Filter, About $50 for oil and $12 of culled 2"x12" from Home Depot. Drive on, drain, wait, fill, drive off!

Ukchris, pretty slick! I like the low-tech approach to a higher-tech issue! Good work. Now, how do you keep the blocks from sliding/slipping?

[ukchris]

Originally Posted by bmussatti

Ukchris, pretty slick! I like the low-tech approach to a higher-tech issue! Good work. Now, how do you keep the blocks from sliding/slipping?

I guess the short answer is... I didn't. The floor is epoxy, I just park the car, push the ramps up snug to the tires and pull forward, they didn't move an inch. I've actually got another piece to add to make them a little higher as it's a tight fit for my noggin as it is in the picture but it's nice as the car is level and access is good.

[z12358]

MNBoxster:
"The drain plug wrench is common enough, 8mm Allen bit. But, the Oil Filter wrench (74mm, 14 flutes) isn't that common, so I wouldn't expect Jiffy Lube to have one.

Besides needing to torque the Plug and Filter Cannister (37 ft.lbs. and 19 ft.lbs. respectively) could also be a problem, they may not have a torque wrench, let alone an accurate one.

Also, by the book, the Oil needs to drain for at least 20 min. to get the most old oil out and I cannot imaging Jiffy Lube holding a Bay out of service for that long.

But, the biggest concern I would have would be having their guys waving open quarts of Oil around my trunk!..."

Thx Jim. All very good points. I'm scratching the idea. It's either going to be by myself, Porsche dealer, or a non-dealer shop specializing in Porsche. The "by myself" is a problem as I have no light and power in the storage garage.

ukchris, great idea with the Home Depo stairs! Btw, what kind of oil pans do you guys use that are so flat and yet can handle up to 10 qts of oil? And where do you take the old oil? I'm also going to need some pics with exact instructions (hence, the Bentely manual question -- any for the 987 out yet?) including torque levels.

Thanks for all the responses!

Z.

[ukchris]

Where are you located? If you ask you might be suprised how willing people are to help those who are eager to learn, for the price of a few beers someone may share their garage for an hour.

You can get an oil pan at Walmart or Home Depot, just make sure it will hold 10 quarts and is reasonably slim. Remember to open the breather hole on the oil pan too or you'll have a mess on your hands, trust me!!

For disposal Autozone will take your old oil, I think they supposedly only do so if you buy your oil there but I don't think they ever check.

Check the quantity of oil required in the book before filling too, I think mine takes 8.75 quarts and I nearly had 9 in before I checked!

Chris.

[z12358]

ukchris:
"Where are you located? If you ask you might be suprised how willing people are to help those who are eager to learn, for the price of a few beers someone may share their garage for an hour."

Thx for the thought. The car's in northwestern CT (Litchfield county) right now where I spend most of my weekends and where I plan storing it. Kind of a long drive to Boston for an oil change. I'll try some friends in the area but if anyone here is in the area and likes beer...

Did Home Depo have those stairs already made or you culled them yourself?

Would the same set of wrenches do the job on 986, 987, 996, and 997?

Z.

[ukchris]

I just kept checking the cullrd lumber rack as it's cheap, you could just as easily buy a 2 x 12 I suppose. I cut them up, a couple of 45 degree cuts with a circular saw then screw them together. Lots of people do an oil change with the back end on rhino ramps, another popular way is to find a slope, put the ramps a little down hill then back on to them such that the car ends up roughly level.

I don't know of anyone in NW CT, there was a Boxster tech session in SE CT a couple of weeks ago which might have been ideal for this.

I think the tools would be similar across cars, they aren't expensive anyway, you're only looking at a few dollars with the exception of the torque wrench.

Chris.

[z12358]

MNBoxster:
"My point is, Porsche doesn't need all the fine print when they can simply deny the repair and probably have 50% or more claimants leave it at that and shell out for the repair on their own. It's a Dealer's game; they have the deck stacked in their favor."

In postings from new (warrantied) owners that I've read on forums it doesn't look like there are a lot denials of warranty. If anything, I was amazed what claims the dealers actually did service under warranty (console scratches, etc.). Sammy's case had a twist as the claim was made just outside of warranty (for something that the dealer failed to fix in waranty) so perhaps a little "convincing" should have been expected (of course, shouldn't have taken that long!). I haven't read about a case where RMS was not repaired under warranty.

Same as with insurance companies, it is in the interest of the ones who offer the insurance/warranty to service as little claims as they can get away with. The deck is always stacked in the favor of the ones who got your money first with an obligation for a conditional service in the future. That's why rules are important, especially written ones. So if the rules of the contract speciffically prohibit something that I've done, my bargaining power during the claim negotiations will be diminished. That's why I wanted to know for sure if anything like that is written in the rules.

And I agree that how claims are handled ultumately rests on the customer satisfaction policy of each company.

Z.

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by z12358

MNBoxster:
"The drain plug wrench is common enough, 8mm Allen bit. But, the Oil Filter wrench (74mm, 14 flutes) isn't that common, so I wouldn't expect Jiffy Lube to have one.

Besides needing to torque the Plug and Filter Cannister (37 ft.lbs. and 19 ft.lbs. respectively) could also be a problem, they may not have a torque wrench, let alone an accurate one.

Also, by the book, the Oil needs to drain for at least 20 min. to get the most old oil out and I cannot imaging Jiffy Lube holding a Bay out of service for that long.

But, the biggest concern I would have would be having their guys waving open quarts of Oil around my trunk!..."

Thx Jim. All very good points. I'm scratching the idea. It's either going to be by myself, Porsche dealer, or a non-dealer shop specializing in Porsche. The "by myself" is a problem as I have no light and power in the storage garage.

ukchris, great idea with the Home Depo stairs! Btw, what kind of oil pans do you guys use that are so flat and yet can handle up to 10 qts of oil? And where do you take the old oil? I'm also going to need some pics with exact instructions (hence, the Bentely manual question -- any for the 987 out yet?) including torque levels.

Thanks for all the responses!

Z.

Actually, any auto parts store that sells oil should take your old oil, not questions, although you might need to empty it into a big tank yourself.

The procedure isn't different from any other car. Search the forum under "oil change" and you'll find pictures of the drain plug and filter cannister so you'll immediately know what you're looking at. The torques are probably the same but you might want to call on your local dealers service departments and see if they're nice enough to confirm. Sometimes they are.

[Brucelee]

In CA, if you sell oil, you must take oil back for recycling.

It is one thing I like about CA laws.

One thing!

[MNBoxster]

Originally Posted by z12358

MNBoxster:
"The drain plug wrench is common enough, 8mm Allen bit. But, the Oil Filter wrench (74mm, 14 flutes) isn't that common, so I wouldn't expect Jiffy Lube to have one.

Besides needing to torque the Plug and Filter Cannister (37 ft.lbs. and 19 ft.lbs. respectively) could also be a problem, they may not have a torque wrench, let alone an accurate one.

Also, by the book, the Oil needs to drain for at least 20 min. to get the most old oil out and I cannot imaging Jiffy Lube holding a Bay out of service for that long.

But, the biggest concern I would have would be having their guys waving open quarts of Oil around my trunk!..."

Thx Jim. All very good points. I'm scratching the idea. It's either going to be by myself, Porsche dealer, or a non-dealer shop specializing in Porsche. The "by myself" is a problem as I have no light and power in the storage garage.

ukchris, great idea with the Home Depo stairs! Btw, what kind of oil pans do you guys use that are so flat and yet can handle up to 10 qts of oil? And where do you take the old oil? I'm also going to need some pics with exact instructions (hence, the Bentely manual question -- any for the 987 out yet?) including torque levels.

Thanks for all the responses!

Z.

Hi,

The Torque Values are the same. Both these pieces are carry-overs, no change. Hope this helps...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99