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stjimmy 12-02-2020 05:47 AM

986 Spoiler Problem
 
My spoiler no longer goes up and down with manual switch and in certain speed.

I can hear something at spoiler when I press the manual up or down button. But only for a sec with slight movement!

Where do I have to check first? I am planning to change new spoiler relay...

Thanks in advance for any help!

piper6909 12-02-2020 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by stjimmy (Post 627314)
My spoiler no longer goes up and down with manual switch and in certain speed.

I can hear something at spoiler when I press the manual up or down button. But only for a sec with slight movement!

Where do I have to check first? I am planning to change new spoiler relay...

Thanks in advance for any help!

If you hear something and get slight movement, then the relay is working. I would look at the mechanism. Something seems stuck, but your electronics seem to be working fine.

stjimmy 12-02-2020 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by piper6909 (Post 627316)
If you hear something and get slight movement, then the relay is working. I would look at the mechanism. Something seems stuck, but your electronics seem to be working fine.

I will disassemble rear spoiler mechanism to check if something stuck or not.

Thanks for your reply!

PaulE 12-02-2020 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by stjimmy (Post 627317)
I will disassemble rear spoiler mechanism to check if something stuck or not.

Thanks for your reply!

I had a similar problem, mine wouldn't close the last 1/4 inch. When you get the mechanism apart, there is a central motor with rack and pinion gears that move the spoiler up and down by pushing cables through upright tubes. If the gears are stripped, those aren't sold separately, so you'll need to buy another mechanism. Taking it apart is pretty straight forward, but getting it back together is much harder, but doable. If the gears aren't stripped, clean the grit off the tubes and cables and re-lube them with some new grease. The ends of those cables have springs on them that go into the rack gears. Getting them back in and keeping everything together is the hard part. I found that using my workbench with the gear against the base of my 5 inch vise bolted to the bench, I was able to compress and push the springs back into the gears. Then you have to carefully place the gears with the springs and cables back into the mechanism. There is nothing to hold the springs in place, they are held in place by the sides of the mechanism case. Wear some heavy leather work gloves while you're getting the springs back into the gears, they have sharp angled metal on their ends and you'll cut your hands a lot if you don't. I figured that out after only a couple of cuts!

I hope this is helpful, good luck!

stjimmy 12-04-2020 04:25 PM

Thanks Paul
After I relube them, it works!
But sometimes it only goes up only 1/3. When I press the spoiler hard, it pops to the end haha.
I have to figure out again :(
Looks like it would be better to change entire gear mechanism system.

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Originally Posted by PaulE (Post 627350)
I had a similar problem, mine wouldn't close the last 1/4 inch. When you get the mechanism apart, there is a central motor with rack and pinion gears that move the spoiler up and down by pushing cables through upright tubes. If the gears are stripped, those aren't sold separately, so you'll need to buy another mechanism. Taking it apart is pretty straight forward, but getting it back together is much harder, but doable. If the gears aren't stripped, clean the grit off the tubes and cables and re-lube them with some new grease. The ends of those cables have springs on them that go into the rack gears. Getting them back in and keeping everything together is the hard part. I found that using my workbench with the gear against the base of my 5 inch vise bolted to the bench, I was able to compress and push the springs back into the gears. Then you have to carefully place the gears with the springs and cables back into the mechanism. There is nothing to hold the springs in place, they are held in place by the sides of the mechanism case. Wear some heavy leather work gloves while you're getting the springs back into the gears, they have sharp angled metal on their ends and you'll cut your hands a lot if you don't. I figured that out after only a couple of cuts!

I hope this is helpful, good luck!


PaulE 12-04-2020 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stjimmy (Post 627419)
Thanks Paul
After I relube them, it works!
But sometimes it only goes up only 1/3. When I press the spoiler hard, it pops to the end haha.
I have to figure out again :(
Looks like it would be better to change entire gear mechanism system.

Glad it helped. If the gears aren't stripped, are you sure you got them in the right places with the motor in the up position? That's all I can think of.

maytag 12-05-2020 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by stjimmy (Post 627419)
Thanks Paul
After I relube them, it works!
But sometimes it only goes up only 1/3. When I press the spoiler hard, it pops to the end haha.
I have to figure out again :(
Looks like it would be better to change entire gear mechanism system.

Jimmy, I've got the entire mechanism in perfect working condition that I'd be happy to trade for a little cash-ola. haha. :cheers:

maytag 12-05-2020 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by stjimmy (Post 627419)
Thanks Paul
After I relube them, it works!
But sometimes it only goes up only 1/3. When I press the spoiler hard, it pops to the end haha.
I have to figure out again :(
Looks like it would be better to change entire gear mechanism system.

oh, and I also have an aftermarket button & plug-n-play harness that looks oem for the control, mounts in the dash, opposite the top raise / lower button (in the horseshoe).

I pulled a photo of one just like it from Ebay. Note that this is the "Illuminated Control", not just the illuminated position-indicator, which looks just like it but doesn't control anything.



http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1607172812.jpg

Starter986 12-05-2020 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by maytag (Post 627435)
oh, and I also have an aftermarket button & plug-n-play harness that looks oem for the control, mounts in the dash, opposite the top raise / lower button (in the horseshoe).

I pulled a photo of one just like it from Ebay. Note that this is the "Illuminated Control", not just the illuminated position-indicator, which looks just like it but doesn't control anything.



http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1607172812.jpg

How much are you asking for that switch?

stjimmy 12-05-2020 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulE (Post 627425)
Glad it helped. If the gears aren't stripped, are you sure you got them in the right places with the motor in the up position? That's all I can think of.

Motors are right in position. I think there is somethig wrong in the motor. I decided to purchase Maytag's entire system :)
Thanks alot!


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