08-08-2019, 10:38 PM
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Are the roll hoops functional as a roll bar?
Or are they merely decorative? They look like “style bars” on the Miata which are not meant to protect driver and passenger.
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08-08-2019, 11:18 PM
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They're a safety feature.
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08-09-2019, 06:15 AM
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Definitely functional. It is a properly-reinforced steel bar that attaches to the frame of the vehicle. Part # 986 580 011 01(roll-over bar), page 323 of the parts catalog.
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08-09-2019, 06:53 AM
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According to PCA they are good enough for the track, so I'd say yes.
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08-09-2019, 07:38 AM
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They are quite beefy
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08-10-2019, 04:35 PM
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They are PCA track certified, and from what I have heard they are certified with most track events.
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08-14-2019, 04:30 PM
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Unless you are too tall in the seat to pass the broomstick test, then you need a roll bar extension.i
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02-25-2020, 05:25 AM
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some tracks require the Brey Krause Roll Bar Extension regardless of driver height, like the track near me (Virginia Int'l Raceway); but most will let you drive as long as the top of the helmet is below the top of the roll-bar.
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02-27-2020, 06:50 PM
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Ha, ha ... shame on you for thinking Porsche would install "cosmetic" bars.
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02-27-2020, 06:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lkchris
Ha, ha ... shame on you for thinking Porsche would install "cosmetic" bars.
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The fact that anyone would think that just gives credit to how cool they look, though!
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02-28-2020, 07:56 AM
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I'm curious as to how integral they are to the structural rigidity. Could I go without them for 3-6 months (street) while doing some interior work?
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02-28-2020, 10:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 03boxster-S
some tracks require the Brey Krause Roll Bar Extension regardless of driver height, like the track near me (Virginia Int'l Raceway); but most will let you drive as long as the top of the helmet is below the top of the roll-bar.
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2 in mim distance between the top of the helmet to the top of the roll bar. Hence extensions.Belts stretch.
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03-01-2020, 05:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasbro
I'm curious as to how integral they are to the structural rigidity. Could I go without them for 3-6 months (street) while doing some interior work?
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I'm not an engineer nor do I play one, but my guess based on steved0x photo is they aren't important for structural rigidity
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03-01-2020, 05:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasbro
I'm curious as to how integral they are to the structural rigidity. Could I go without them for 3-6 months (street) while doing some interior work?
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They're critical. It's effectively your B-pillar. Convertibles require reinforcements there (and in the front, around the windshield) since they do not have the hard-top roof providing rigidity.
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03-01-2020, 07:23 AM
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just to play devil's advocate (and because I really don't know) can you explain the load paths that make it critical for structural integrity. I can understand a small contribution to torsional rigidity but nothing longitudinal.
as an extreme example, this 914 still has the roll hoop intact but is obviously dead
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03-01-2020, 01:13 PM
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Rear side impact protection perhaps.....but really the whole structures behaviour needs to be considered
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03-01-2020, 01:29 PM
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Hasbro, I think you're perfectly fine driving for a while without it.
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03-03-2020, 04:03 PM
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Hmmm, thanks all. I'll give it a try for a week or so and put it back on. It will eventually be replaced with a custom set up.
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