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cantdrv55 08-08-2019 10:38 PM

Are the roll hoops functional as a roll bar?
 
Or are they merely decorative? They look like “style bars” on the Miata which are not meant to protect driver and passenger.

TrumpyAl 08-08-2019 11:18 PM

They're a safety feature.

Fiddlebog 08-09-2019 06:15 AM

Definitely functional. It is a properly-reinforced steel bar that attaches to the frame of the vehicle. Part # 986 580 011 01(roll-over bar), page 323 of the parts catalog.

piper6909 08-09-2019 06:53 AM

According to PCA they are good enough for the track, so I'd say yes.

steved0x 08-09-2019 07:38 AM

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1532759223.jpg

They are quite beefy :)

mgfranz 08-10-2019 04:35 PM

They are PCA track certified, and from what I have heard they are certified with most track events.

Blackcloud 08-14-2019 04:30 PM

Unless you are too tall in the seat to pass the broomstick test, then you need a roll bar extension.i

03boxster-S 02-25-2020 05:25 AM

some tracks require the Brey Krause Roll Bar Extension regardless of driver height, like the track near me (Virginia Int'l Raceway); but most will let you drive as long as the top of the helmet is below the top of the roll-bar.

lkchris 02-27-2020 06:50 PM

Ha, ha ... shame on you for thinking Porsche would install "cosmetic" bars.

Fiddlebog 02-27-2020 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lkchris (Post 612550)
Ha, ha ... shame on you for thinking Porsche would install "cosmetic" bars.

The fact that anyone would think that just gives credit to how cool they look, though!

Hasbro 02-28-2020 07:56 AM

I'm curious as to how integral they are to the structural rigidity. Could I go without them for 3-6 months (street) while doing some interior work?

Xpit77 02-28-2020 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03boxster-S (Post 612385)
some tracks require the Brey Krause Roll Bar Extension regardless of driver height, like the track near me (Virginia Int'l Raceway); but most will let you drive as long as the top of the helmet is below the top of the roll-bar.

2 in mim distance between the top of the helmet to the top of the roll bar. Hence extensions.Belts stretch.

jmitro 03-01-2020 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hasbro (Post 612578)
I'm curious as to how integral they are to the structural rigidity. Could I go without them for 3-6 months (street) while doing some interior work?

I'm not an engineer nor do I play one, but my guess based on steved0x photo is they aren't important for structural rigidity

Fiddlebog 03-01-2020 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hasbro (Post 612578)
I'm curious as to how integral they are to the structural rigidity. Could I go without them for 3-6 months (street) while doing some interior work?

They're critical. It's effectively your B-pillar. Convertibles require reinforcements there (and in the front, around the windshield) since they do not have the hard-top roof providing rigidity.

jmitro 03-01-2020 07:23 AM

just to play devil's advocate (and because I really don't know) can you explain the load paths that make it critical for structural integrity. I can understand a small contribution to torsional rigidity but nothing longitudinal.
as an extreme example, this 914 still has the roll hoop intact but is obviously dead


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1583079801.jpg

jaykay 03-01-2020 01:13 PM

Rear side impact protection perhaps.....but really the whole structures behaviour needs to be considered

piper6909 03-01-2020 01:29 PM

Hasbro, I think you're perfectly fine driving for a while without it.

Hasbro 03-03-2020 04:03 PM

Hmmm, thanks all. I'll give it a try for a week or so and put it back on. It will eventually be replaced with a custom set up.


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