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cartagena 09-20-2006 03:42 AM

Stereo Sucks so Bad
 
As we all know the stereo sucks. I want to buy a total new system for my 2006 Boxster. I want something that will not change the cosmetics of the car but pump out mind shattering sound. I am willing to spend $3000-$4000.

Can someone tell me in that price range what would be the best choice of stereo, power amp and speakers? Hooking up the Ipod is also important.

NickCats 09-20-2006 04:54 AM

cartagena,

You're back ! I thought you were selling the Boxster ? Haven't heard from you in awhile...

From everything I've heard, sounds like this may be your best option :

http://www.reusaudio.com/

http://986forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7094&page=2&pp=20&highlight=stere o

Hope this helps...

Nick

cartagena 09-20-2006 05:49 AM

I did not get any good offers. One guy did offer me several cows..... :rolleyes:

The idea of selling it makes me sad. So now it is "sorta" for sale. I am sure it will take a long time to sell it here.

I am back on the coast now with it. Took it out yesterday for a 135+ mile an hour cruise with my new assistant and kept saying "now why do I want to sell it?" :cheers:

I need to get a kick ass stereo though since Metallica sounds like crap on the factory stereo.

Thanks for the link.


Quote:

Originally Posted by NickCats
cartagena,

You're back ! I thought you were selling the Boxster ? Haven't heard from you in awhile...

From everything I've heard, sounds like this may be your best option :

http://www.reusaudio.com/

http://986forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7094&page=2&pp=20&highlight=stere o

Hope this helps...

Nick


Marc Gelefsky 09-20-2006 07:01 AM

We are gonna need some new pictures... :)

TriGem2k 09-20-2006 09:58 AM

Can't go wrong with Reus Audio. Call Rick Reus and let him know your situation, they will help transport the car to California then make sure it gets back to you as soon as they are done.

I went with their Highest system for the Boxster and it ran me about 5k.

Hope this helps.

www.reusaudio.com

cartagena 09-20-2006 11:58 AM

I am sure these guys do great installs but shipping the car from South America is just not an option. It would be extremely time consuming and expensive. Thanks for the tip though.


Quote:

Originally Posted by TriGem2k
Can't go wrong with Reus Audio. Call Rick Reus and let him know your situation, they will help transport the car to California then make sure it gets back to you as soon as they are done.

I went with their Highest system for the Boxster and it ran me about 5k.

Hope this helps.

www.reusaudio.com


SD987 09-20-2006 01:42 PM

I assume you have the basic stereo (not sound plus or Bose?). If so, then I can understand your choice of words in the subject line. However, I think there has to be a level of acceptance that the Box just doesn't make a good sound studio.

I've gone from the basic stereo in my 987 base (which I actually thought sounded OK with the top-up) to the Bose in the S and subjectively, there's improvement, but objectively speaking, not so much. Top-up, the sound of the engine seriously compromises sound quality (noticeably louder in the base than S) and top-down, the wind turbulence is the worse of the four convertibles I've owned.

The Reus devotees on the board may disagree, but to a certain extent, I think that trying to achieve great tunage in the Box is an exercise in futility, only made more difficult by your geographic location. I wish Porsche would put headrest speakers in the 987, but it also sounds like your objective is as much "waking the neighbors" as it is "optimal sound quality".

The point being, I'd hate to see you spend alot of money upgrading your stereo, only to find the upgrade compromised by drawbacks of the car's setup. For example the Bose, which represents an upgrade (of debatable worth), isn't really enough to overcome those drawbacks.

blinkwatt 09-20-2006 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartagena
I need to get a kick ass stereo though since Metallica sounds like crap on the factory stereo.

Oh man,have you listened to Metallica S & M on any decent stereo system? Wow!!!!!!!!!!

cartagena 09-20-2006 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blinkwatt
Oh man,have you listened to Metallica S & M on any decent stereo system? Wow!!!!!!!!!!


Yes, "Nothing Else Matters" from the S & M disk is AWSOME. My former BMW had a nice sound system in it and it just rocked cruising around with that tune on especially when the bass box would vibrate the whole car.

My Boxster with the basic stereo system however sounds like a tin can.

I was cruising today along the ocean with my new assistant listening to Ozzy live doing Paranoid from the Tribute album. My foot got a little heavy and before I knew it I was doing 135 mph with one hand in the air. My assistant was yelling "Papi papi! Mas rapido!!!" The orange sun was setting into the ocean, I could smell the cane burning in the distance and was surrounded by palm trees. It made all the taxes I had to pay on that car worth while.

cartagena 09-20-2006 04:29 PM

Yes, you are right. Being a convertible with a small interior is an inherent negative for the acoustics of the car. But almost anything will be an improvement over the factory stereo. I would really like to hear one of these Reus setups next time I am in the states though. I wonder how hard it would be to buy all the pieces and install it myself?


Quote:

Originally Posted by SD987
I assume you have the basic stereo (not sound plus or Bose?). If so, then I can understand your choice of words in the subject line. However, I think there has to be a level of acceptance that the Box just doesn't make a good sound studio.

I've gone from the basic stereo in my 987 base (which I actually thought sounded OK with the top-up) to the Bose in the S and subjectively, there's improvement, but objectively speaking, not so much. Top-up, the sound of the engine seriously compromises sound quality (noticeably louder in the base than S) and top-down, the wind turbulence is the worse of the four convertibles I've owned.

The Reus devotees on the board may disagree, but to a certain extent, I think that trying to achieve great tunage in the Box is an exercise in futility, only made more difficult by your geographic location. I wish Porsche would put headrest speakers in the 987, but it also sounds like your objective is as much "waking the neighbors" as it is "optimal sound quality".

The point being, I'd hate to see you spend alot of money upgrading your stereo, only to find the upgrade compromised by drawbacks of the car's setup. For example the Bose, which represents an upgrade (of debatable worth), isn't really enough to overcome those drawbacks.


Breezer 09-20-2006 04:40 PM

I had my done last weekend.

Focal 165V1 6" speakers and tweeters in custom door installation.
Focal 100CV1 4" in dash.
Alpine MRPF250 Amp.
Alpine CDA9856 Head End with full IPOD control.

Great sound and volume.

cartagena 09-20-2006 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breezer
I had my done last weekend.

Focal 165V1 6" speakers and tweeters in custom door installation.
Focal 100CV1 4" in dash.
Alpine MRPF250 Amp.
Alpine CDA9856 Head End with full IPOD control.

Great sound and volume.

Would this work with a 987 as well? If it sounds good I could get the same stuff shipped down to me.

MNBoxster 09-20-2006 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD987
I assume you have the basic stereo (not sound plus or Bose?). If so, then I can understand your choice of words in the subject line. However, I think there has to be a level of acceptance that the Box just doesn't make a good sound studio.

I've gone from the basic stereo in my 987 base (which I actually thought sounded OK with the top-up) to the Bose in the S and subjectively, there's improvement, but objectively speaking, not so much. Top-up, the sound of the engine seriously compromises sound quality (noticeably louder in the base than S) and top-down, the wind turbulence is the worse of the four convertibles I've owned.

The Reus devotees on the board may disagree, but to a certain extent, I think that trying to achieve great tunage in the Box is an exercise in futility, only made more difficult by your geographic location. I wish Porsche would put headrest speakers in the 987, but it also sounds like your objective is as much "waking the neighbors" as it is "optimal sound quality".

The point being, I'd hate to see you spend alot of money upgrading your stereo, only to find the upgrade compromised by drawbacks of the car's setup. For example the Bose, which represents an upgrade (of debatable worth), isn't really enough to overcome those drawbacks.

Hi,

You took the words out of my mouth, I agree with everything you say. Not to diss the Reus guys, if they're happy, even if they think it sounds better, it's their car, their money.

But, as mentioned, no car makes a good accoustic stage, especially a convertible.

I'd much rather take the $5k and drop it in my Home System, it seems there's always a new gizmo to add. But again, that's me...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

TriGem2k 09-20-2006 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNBoxster
even if they think it sounds better, it's their car, their money.


I’m absolutely positive it sounds great.

I've been are great sounding music for while and I know what it should sound like. During the modeling of our home 5years ago or so we had a Mark Levinson system put in, covered every room including bathrooms and pool area. System ran off of separate amps in each room and can be controlled by individual section or all by the "main brain" in the living room. Anyone who’s had/heard one knows those systems sound damn near perfect and do not come cheap (ran us, at that time, about $145k).

At the same time, many of my friends are sound engineers for Warner Music Group, J Records…etc. Been in many studio recordings, and know what studio music sounds like

None the less, not to "diss" anyone on this forum but you should hear a Reus System before you judge it. And if it could all be done again I would have Reus do the house rather than a Mark Levinson.

MNBoxster 09-21-2006 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TriGem2k
I’m absolutely positive it sounds great.

I've been are great sounding music for while and I know what it should sound like. During the modeling of our home 5years ago or so we had a Mark Levinson system put in, covered every room including bathrooms and pool area. System ran off of separate amps in each room and can be controlled by individual section or all by the "main brain" in the living room. Anyone who’s had/heard one knows those systems sound damn near perfect and do not come cheap (ran us, at that time, about $145k).

At the same time, many of my friends are sound engineers for Warner Music Group, J Records…etc. Been in many studio recordings, and know what studio music sounds like

None the less, not to "diss" anyone on this forum but you should hear a Reus System before you judge it. And if it could all be done again I would have Reus do the house rather than a Mark Levinson.

Hi,

Misunderstanding here... I didn't say it didn't sound better at all, I'm sure it does. I guess I would be skeptical that it sounds $5k better, but that's of course subjective. But, when some people have talked about adding SONY, Pioneer and Kenwood systems and sounding just like being there, I think much of the effect may be placebic.

I am satisfied with the OEM system in my '99. It's not what I would call great, but it is adequate, especially after adding the OEM Rear Speakers. But, I am reluctant to leap into major $$ upgrades because I don't believe it can be greatly improved upon and still maintain a favorable cost/benefit ratio. Besides, I love just listening to the engine.

I have a high-end system in my Esprit and it sounds pretty good (though not as good as my Home System by a long shot), and even this system is ON maybe 10% of the time I'm driving the car at best. The Motor right behind your ear is my preferred music anyway. But if I were to put the same system in my Boxster, I'm sure it wouldn't sound 50% as good as it does now. Sorry if you think I was jabbin' at you...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

TriGem2k 09-21-2006 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNBoxster
Hi,

Misunderstanding here... I didn't say it didn't sound better at all, I'm sure it does. I guess I would be skeptical that it sounds $5k better, but that's of course subjective. But, when some people have talked about adding SONY, Pioneer and Kenwood systems and sounding just like being there, I think much of the effect may be placebic.

I am satisfied with the OEM system in my '99. It's not what I would call great, but it is adequate, especially after adding the OEM Rear Speakers. But, I am reluctant to leap into major $$ upgrades because I don't believe it can be greatly improved upon and still maintain a favorable cost/benefit ratio. Besides, I love just listening to the engine.

I have a high-end system in my Esprit and it sounds pretty good (though not as good as my Home System by a long shot), and even this system is ON maybe 10% of the time I'm driving the car at best. The Motor right behind your ear is my preferred music anyway. But if I were to put the same system in my Boxster, I'm sure it wouldn't sound 50% as good as it does now. Sorry if you think I was jabbin' at you...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

I completely agree with you when it comes to the cost/benefit ratio. I had the $$$ to blow on the system and just did it.

Actually when I bought the car 5some years ago I had no intent to mess with the stereo or anything on the interior, but it kind of turned into a snowball effect. First I just wanted a navigation system, and then realized I would have to remove the stock amp/CD changer, and the changes just kept coming. When I finally blew out my door speakers with the aftermarket amp I had in the car with the Navi I got fed up and just threw out the 5k.

I am very happy with it right now, but if I could do it all again from the very beginning I wouldn't touch it at all.

After mentioning how great my Reus System is, I kind of went backwards on that one huh? Oh Well. $$$ out the window, everyone has to make a living somehow.

super66 09-21-2006 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartagena
As we all know the stereo sucks. I want to buy a total new system for my 2006 Boxster. I want something that will not change the cosmetics of the car but pump out mind shattering sound. I am willing to spend $3000-$4000.

Cartagena, I can fix your stereo sounding like crap for about 15 bucks....I'll keep the remaining $3985 for consultation fees.....ready...buy a different CD, I think the Metallica may be the problem :D now please send a check

cartagena 09-21-2006 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by super66
Cartagena, I can fix your stereo sounding like crap for about 15 bucks....I'll keep the remaining $3985 for consultation fees.....ready...buy a different CD, I think the Metallica may be the problem :D now please send a check


Why don't you send me one of your Spandau Ballet disks so I can try something different?

BuffaloBoxster 09-22-2006 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blinkwatt
Oh man,have you listened to Metallica S & M on any decent stereo system? Wow!!!!!!!!!!

Metallica became terminally ill with the black album and died forever with the release of Load. :(

NickCats 09-22-2006 09:48 AM

Kill 'Em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, GREAT albums !

And Justice for All, OK.

Everything since "Justice", total crap...


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