Stereo Sucks so Bad

[TriGem2k]

Can't go wrong with Reus Audio. Call Rick Reus and let him know your situation, they will help transport the car to California then make sure it gets back to you as soon as they are done.

I went with their Highest system for the Boxster and it ran me about 5k.

Hope this helps.

www.reusaudio.com

I am sure these guys do great installs but shipping the car from South America is just not an option. It would be extremely time consuming and expensive. Thanks for the tip though.

Originally Posted by TriGem2k

Can't go wrong with Reus Audio. Call Rick Reus and let him know your situation, they will help transport the car to California then make sure it gets back to you as soon as they are done.

I went with their Highest system for the Boxster and it ran me about 5k.

Hope this helps.

www.reusaudio.com

[SD987]

I assume you have the basic stereo (not sound plus or Bose?). If so, then I can understand your choice of words in the subject line. However, I think there has to be a level of acceptance that the Box just doesn't make a good sound studio.

I've gone from the basic stereo in my 987 base (which I actually thought sounded OK with the top-up) to the Bose in the S and subjectively, there's improvement, but objectively speaking, not so much. Top-up, the sound of the engine seriously compromises sound quality (noticeably louder in the base than S) and top-down, the wind turbulence is the worse of the four convertibles I've owned.

The Reus devotees on the board may disagree, but to a certain extent, I think that trying to achieve great tunage in the Box is an exercise in futility, only made more difficult by your geographic location. I wish Porsche would put headrest speakers in the 987, but it also sounds like your objective is as much "waking the neighbors" as it is "optimal sound quality".

The point being, I'd hate to see you spend alot of money upgrading your stereo, only to find the upgrade compromised by drawbacks of the car's setup. For example the Bose, which represents an upgrade (of debatable worth), isn't really enough to overcome those drawbacks.

Yes, you are right. Being a convertible with a small interior is an inherent negative for the acoustics of the car. But almost anything will be an improvement over the factory stereo. I would really like to hear one of these Reus setups next time I am in the states though. I wonder how hard it would be to buy all the pieces and install it myself?

Originally Posted by SD987

I assume you have the basic stereo (not sound plus or Bose?). If so, then I can understand your choice of words in the subject line. However, I think there has to be a level of acceptance that the Box just doesn't make a good sound studio.

I've gone from the basic stereo in my 987 base (which I actually thought sounded OK with the top-up) to the Bose in the S and subjectively, there's improvement, but objectively speaking, not so much. Top-up, the sound of the engine seriously compromises sound quality (noticeably louder in the base than S) and top-down, the wind turbulence is the worse of the four convertibles I've owned.

The Reus devotees on the board may disagree, but to a certain extent, I think that trying to achieve great tunage in the Box is an exercise in futility, only made more difficult by your geographic location. I wish Porsche would put headrest speakers in the 987, but it also sounds like your objective is as much "waking the neighbors" as it is "optimal sound quality".

The point being, I'd hate to see you spend alot of money upgrading your stereo, only to find the upgrade compromised by drawbacks of the car's setup. For example the Bose, which represents an upgrade (of debatable worth), isn't really enough to overcome those drawbacks.

[Breezer]

I had my done last weekend.

Focal 165V1 6" speakers and tweeters in custom door installation.
Focal 100CV1 4" in dash.
Alpine MRPF250 Amp.
Alpine CDA9856 Head End with full IPOD control.

Great sound and volume.

Originally Posted by Breezer

I had my done last weekend.

Focal 165V1 6" speakers and tweeters in custom door installation.
Focal 100CV1 4" in dash.
Alpine MRPF250 Amp.
Alpine CDA9856 Head End with full IPOD control.

Great sound and volume.

Would this work with a 987 as well? If it sounds good I could get the same stuff shipped down to me.

[MNBoxster]

Originally Posted by SD987

I assume you have the basic stereo (not sound plus or Bose?). If so, then I can understand your choice of words in the subject line. However, I think there has to be a level of acceptance that the Box just doesn't make a good sound studio.

I've gone from the basic stereo in my 987 base (which I actually thought sounded OK with the top-up) to the Bose in the S and subjectively, there's improvement, but objectively speaking, not so much. Top-up, the sound of the engine seriously compromises sound quality (noticeably louder in the base than S) and top-down, the wind turbulence is the worse of the four convertibles I've owned.

The Reus devotees on the board may disagree, but to a certain extent, I think that trying to achieve great tunage in the Box is an exercise in futility, only made more difficult by your geographic location. I wish Porsche would put headrest speakers in the 987, but it also sounds like your objective is as much "waking the neighbors" as it is "optimal sound quality".

The point being, I'd hate to see you spend alot of money upgrading your stereo, only to find the upgrade compromised by drawbacks of the car's setup. For example the Bose, which represents an upgrade (of debatable worth), isn't really enough to overcome those drawbacks.

Hi,

You took the words out of my mouth, I agree with everything you say. Not to diss the Reus guys, if they're happy, even if they think it sounds better, it's their car, their money.

But, as mentioned, no car makes a good accoustic stage, especially a convertible.

I'd much rather take the $5k and drop it in my Home System, it seems there's always a new gizmo to add. But again, that's me...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

[TriGem2k]

Originally Posted by MNBoxster

even if they think it sounds better, it's their car, their money.

I’m absolutely positive it sounds great.

I've been are great sounding music for while and I know what it should sound like. During the modeling of our home 5years ago or so we had a Mark Levinson system put in, covered every room including bathrooms and pool area. System ran off of separate amps in each room and can be controlled by individual section or all by the "main brain" in the living room. Anyone who’s had/heard one knows those systems sound damn near perfect and do not come cheap (ran us, at that time, about $145k).

At the same time, many of my friends are sound engineers for Warner Music Group, J Records…etc. Been in many studio recordings, and know what studio music sounds like

None the less, not to "diss" anyone on this forum but you should hear a Reus System before you judge it. And if it could all be done again I would have Reus do the house rather than a Mark Levinson.

[MNBoxster]

Originally Posted by TriGem2k

I’m absolutely positive it sounds great.

I've been are great sounding music for while and I know what it should sound like. During the modeling of our home 5years ago or so we had a Mark Levinson system put in, covered every room including bathrooms and pool area. System ran off of separate amps in each room and can be controlled by individual section or all by the "main brain" in the living room. Anyone who’s had/heard one knows those systems sound damn near perfect and do not come cheap (ran us, at that time, about $145k).

At the same time, many of my friends are sound engineers for Warner Music Group, J Records…etc. Been in many studio recordings, and know what studio music sounds like

None the less, not to "diss" anyone on this forum but you should hear a Reus System before you judge it. And if it could all be done again I would have Reus do the house rather than a Mark Levinson.

Hi,

Misunderstanding here... I didn't say it didn't sound better at all, I'm sure it does. I guess I would be skeptical that it sounds $5k better, but that's of course subjective. But, when some people have talked about adding SONY, Pioneer and Kenwood systems and sounding just like being there, I think much of the effect may be placebic.

I am satisfied with the OEM system in my '99. It's not what I would call great, but it is adequate, especially after adding the OEM Rear Speakers. But, I am reluctant to leap into major $$ upgrades because I don't believe it can be greatly improved upon and still maintain a favorable cost/benefit ratio. Besides, I love just listening to the engine.

I have a high-end system in my Esprit and it sounds pretty good (though not as good as my Home System by a long shot), and even this system is ON maybe 10% of the time I'm driving the car at best. The Motor right behind your ear is my preferred music anyway. But if I were to put the same system in my Boxster, I'm sure it wouldn't sound 50% as good as it does now. Sorry if you think I was jabbin' at you...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

[TriGem2k]

Originally Posted by MNBoxster

Hi,

Misunderstanding here... I didn't say it didn't sound better at all, I'm sure it does. I guess I would be skeptical that it sounds $5k better, but that's of course subjective. But, when some people have talked about adding SONY, Pioneer and Kenwood systems and sounding just like being there, I think much of the effect may be placebic.

I am satisfied with the OEM system in my '99. It's not what I would call great, but it is adequate, especially after adding the OEM Rear Speakers. But, I am reluctant to leap into major $$ upgrades because I don't believe it can be greatly improved upon and still maintain a favorable cost/benefit ratio. Besides, I love just listening to the engine.

I have a high-end system in my Esprit and it sounds pretty good (though not as good as my Home System by a long shot), and even this system is ON maybe 10% of the time I'm driving the car at best. The Motor right behind your ear is my preferred music anyway. But if I were to put the same system in my Boxster, I'm sure it wouldn't sound 50% as good as it does now. Sorry if you think I was jabbin' at you...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

I completely agree with you when it comes to the cost/benefit ratio. I had the $$$ to blow on the system and just did it.

Actually when I bought the car 5some years ago I had no intent to mess with the stereo or anything on the interior, but it kind of turned into a snowball effect. First I just wanted a navigation system, and then realized I would have to remove the stock amp/CD changer, and the changes just kept coming. When I finally blew out my door speakers with the aftermarket amp I had in the car with the Navi I got fed up and just threw out the 5k.

I am very happy with it right now, but if I could do it all again from the very beginning I wouldn't touch it at all.

After mentioning how great my Reus System is, I kind of went backwards on that one huh? Oh Well. $$$ out the window, everyone has to make a living somehow.

[eslai]

Originally Posted by MNBoxster

Misunderstanding here... I didn't say it didn't sound better at all, I'm sure it does. I guess I would be skeptical that it sounds $5k better, but that's of course subjective. But, when some people have talked about adding SONY, Pioneer and Kenwood systems and sounding just like being there, I think much of the effect may be placebic.

(It's not a "misunderstanding". You "miscommunicated" in such a way that it very much came off as an insult.)

Well certainly, the car doesn't sound like a concert hall when it's moving and the top is down. What I keep telling people when I talk about the Reus sound is that this is how I expected the Bose system to sound. I don't tell them that it sounds like the best stereo in the world or anything.