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MN 986 04-10-2019 07:57 PM

KRAM36, here you go.

MichaelV, glad to see I'm not the only one with snow in the background, we're supposed to get 8+" by Friday. I like the change of seasons, but it is spring already!



http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1554954977.jpg

KRAM36 04-11-2019 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MN 986 (Post 592836)
KRAM36, here you go.

MichaelV, glad to see I'm not the only one with snow in the background, we're supposed to get 8+" by Friday. I like the change of seasons, but it is spring already!



http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1554954977.jpg

You rock, that's exactly what I'm looking for!

Thank you! :cheers:

BRAN 04-11-2019 07:47 AM

A quick shot of them in combination with Seal Grey. I personally would like a silverish frame better, but they still look awesome. Compared to the old tail lights, which give the Boxster a "round" and "smooth" old-school appearance, these new 718 style tail lights do indeed change the rear a lot...and not in a bad way.:cheers:
Quality check:
Perfect fit --> OEM 4mm gaps possible \/ check
Cracks --> absolute flawless, I only saw two rougher Inch long areas, where they brake the plastic molds...not noticeable and can be easily cured \/ check
Functionalty --> good visiblity at day time, including the blinkers \/ check
Parking Lights --> the long light bar, not the little corner piece \/ check
Fog Lights --> Just one, left side corner light, brightness...uhm… = could be better
Btw, I have those cable adaptors, too. I came to the conclusion, that they are not needed for extension or wrong wiring...but for LHD and RHD determination...I am pretty sure that UK etc will have different one for the right fog light to light up. So, if we could get a UK Version cable extension for the right tail light, the 2nd fog light might light up as well. JUST A THEORY.
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1554997201.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1555002859.jpg

Business opportunity: Frame-foils in Porsche OEM colors :D

KRAM36 04-11-2019 08:18 AM

BRAN that looks great! :cheers:

Yes I have zero photo editing skill, but just playing around, adding in the duck tail spoiler with the PORSCHE lettering. I think it looks good.

https://i.postimg.cc/66FDzFtN/1a.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/NM5zkknM/1b.jpg

:cool:

BRAN 04-11-2019 09:20 AM

Yep, your photoshoped idea looks just right.:cheers:

Burg Boxster 04-11-2019 09:27 AM

The more I see these the more I think they look really good. Hopefully they hold up for y'all.

Good luck :)

Dubaday 04-11-2019 09:58 AM

These tail lights are sweeeeeeeet! Glad a bunch of y'all who bought them are loving them.
Makes me want a pair myself. But for $700 ? hmmm... not sure :rolleyes:

Mhunter 02-19-2020 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BRAN (Post 592277)
Just got info, that they will be available here in Germany on Friday (give or take 1-2 days). Hopefully the updated version. :cheers:
not affiliated in any way: sw-tuning.de

Hi BRAN! I'm looking to buy those lights in europe (I'm from sweden). Did you buy yours at sw-tuning? I cant find them in the web shop? I have ordered before from them, so it would be great if they have them..

BRAN 02-19-2020 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mhunter (Post 612003)
Hi BRAN! I'm looking to buy those lights in europe (I'm from sweden). Did you buy yours at sw-tuning? I cant find them in the web shop? I have ordered before from them, so it would be great if they have them..

Hi Mhunter, yes I did. I don't find them at all at the moment...which is kinda weird.
I remember, that a Swedish shop was offering them, too...when they first were shown, but sorry, don't have that link handy at the moment.

Maybe eBay, direct import from Taiwan?

Mhunter 02-19-2020 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BRAN (Post 612007)
Hi Mhunter, yes I did. I don't find them at all at the moment...which is kinda weird.
I remember, that a Swedish shop was offering them, too...when they first were shown, but sorry, don't have that link handy at the moment.

Maybe eBay, direct import from Taiwan?

Ok! I might ask sw-tuning, if they can offer them. Yes, I saw that swedish shop"Turnclear" have them, but it seems to be an old site? I have sent mail but no answer.
Is yours non-tinted and the "rear light part" is red plastic (even when no power is on) as in the picture? Because I have seen different versions, with all clear or all tinted... (the other picture)
https://imgur.com/WcTQxVS
https://imgur.com/dVQyGmT

Mhunter 02-19-2020 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mhunter (Post 612008)
Ok! I might ask sw-tuning, if they can offer them. Yes, I saw that swedish shop"Turnclear" have them, but it seems to be an old site? I have sent mail but no answer.
Is yours non-tinted and the "rear light part" is red plastic (even when no power is on) as in the picture? Because I have seen different versions, with all clear or all tinted... (the other picture)
https://imgur.com/WcTQxVS
https://imgur.com/dVQyGmT

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1582151341.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1582151362.jpg

BRAN 02-19-2020 01:45 PM

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1582151963.jpg
non-tinted with red tail lights, black frame (clear frame wasn't offered, but like the black frame now)

One thing would be cool if you are going to ask: If we could activate the right fog light with a UK adaptor and if they would be available? :D

Mhunter 02-19-2020 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BRAN (Post 612013)
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1582151963.jpg
non-tinted with red tail lights, black frame (clear frame wasn't offered, but like the black frame now)

One thing would be cool if you are going to ask: If we could activate the right fog light with a UK adaptor and if they would be available? :D

Looks really great! I will ask and check that!

Mhunter 02-22-2020 11:56 AM

Too bad, it seems hard to find those taillights here in sweden or in europe. Both the swedish shop Turnclear and german SW-tuning says it was a limited sale :(
From eBay for $700 + $150 shipping makes it just a bit too much...
If someone knows where I coud find them in europe, it would be grateful!

BRAN 02-22-2020 12:40 PM

yeah...kinda wondering, what happened.

Btw...I have a little bit of fogging in my left tail light, each time it is cold and rainy.
Right side is fine.
Anyone else?

JBauer 02-22-2020 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BRAN (Post 612224)
yeah...kinda wondering, what happened.

Btw...I have a little bit of fogging in my left tail light, each time it is cold and rainy.
Right side is fine.
Anyone else?

I have had a little on my driver's side. Nothing major.

howdy 01-20-2021 09:31 AM

How are these lights holding up for those of you that purchased them? Thinking of taking the plunge and purchasing a set.

Radman 01-20-2021 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by howdy (Post 629443)
How are these lights holding up for those of you that purchased them? Thinking of taking the plunge and purchasing a set.

+1! I think they really update the appearance of the car.

howdy 01-21-2021 07:56 AM

I imagine that the lights USR sells are the same ones being sold on EBAY? I cannot imagine the demand is so large for 718 style lights for a 986 that there are a couple different manufactures out there making them. Anyone know for certain? If there is only one company making them and a few different sellers I guess it comes down to who you can get them from the cheapest to your door.

particlewave 01-21-2021 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by howdy (Post 629443)
How are these lights holding up for those of you that purchased them? Thinking of taking the plunge and purchasing a set.

They’re all the same.
I’ve seen some reports on 986 Facebook groups of LED banks failing. The LEDs are not serviceable.
I can’t imagine trying to dig up the posts, so I have no evidence.

Aside from that, I haven’t heard any other complaints.

PLP 05-21-2021 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by thstone (Post 589811)
I installed mine today. I really like the look.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rflores2323 (Post 589732)
Here is a video of fitment on mine. I really don't see a fitment issue. Yes there is a small gap but it's not huge.

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Originally Posted by BRAN (Post 592850)
A quick shot of them in combination with Seal Grey.

Hey guys,

I just ordered mine.
But a quick question.

I heard somewhere, but it could have been regarding other assembly, that there is a turn signal hyper flash issue.

Then I read those are direct plug in - so which one is it?

Also, your take on light intensity vs OEM?

Zordrack 05-21-2021 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PLP (Post 635821)
Hey guys,

I just ordered mine.
But a quick question.

I heard somewhere, but it could have been regarding other assembly, that there is a turn signal hyper flash issue.

Then I read those are direct plug in - so which one is it?

Also, your take on light intensity vs OEM?

No hyper flashing issues.
Light output is way lower than stock. At least on the smoked version.
Was completely plug and play though.
My only issue was the bolts aren't long enough to reattach the plastic carpet washers in the trunk.

But so far happy.

PLP 05-21-2021 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Zordrack (Post 635822)
No hyper flashing issues.
Light output is way lower than stock. At least on the smoked version.

Thanks for the quick response.
I ordered clear ones. Smoked, although the car is black, did not "talk" to me.
I hope the light intensity will be better... but this is what I was afraid of - too little light vs stock taillights.

We will see.

Zordrack 05-21-2021 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PLP (Post 635823)
Thanks for the quick response.
I ordered clear ones. Smoked, although the car is black, did not "talk" to me.
I hope the light intensity will be better... but this is what I was afraid of - too little light vs stock taillights.

We will see.

On the smoked lights (and yes it's black on black, tinted windows and smoked LED side markers and third brake light) I would say that it's adequate for driving but not much more.
I would very seriously doubt that you could pass inspection with them in any state that takes lights seriously.

But they do look good, and all my lights were shot. Both housings, gaskets and bulb carriers.
So I had to buy completely new lights and this seemed like the best option.
No regrets so far.

But yeah. They are kinda dim.

Radman 05-21-2021 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 629488)
They’re all the same.
I’ve seen some reports on 986 Facebook groups of LED banks failing. The LEDs are not serviceable.
I can’t imagine trying to dig up the posts, so I have no evidence.

Aside from that, I haven’t heard any other complaints.

I wonder how true it is that they aren't serviceable. I mean, you ground off the amber from the fronts right lol! Where there's a will, there's a way. Mainly a question of if these things can be opened.

BRAN 05-21-2021 04:02 PM

Light intensity is fine...TÜV and DOT certified...
brake and back up light > OEM
fog light < OEM
blinker < OEM
rear light > OEM

PLP 05-21-2021 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BRAN (Post 635860)
Light intensity is fine...TÜV and DOT certified...
brake and back up light > OEM
fog light < OEM
blinker < OEM
rear light > OEM

OK with corner lights, although I hope change from parking to stop is drastic enough to be noticeable.
I am happy with brake, but unhappy with Blinker.

Thanks for the info.
I will update once I get mine.

BRAN 05-22-2021 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PLP (Post 635867)
OK with corner lights, although I hope change from parking to stop is drastic enough to be noticeable.
I am happy with brake, but unhappy with Blinker.

Thanks for the info.
I will update once I get mine.

Was referring to daytime, of course.
Not sure if a 718 OEM blinker is that much brighter.
And you will need refloctors.

Are those tail lights actually available again? That's nice.

adamsmith7773 08-27-2021 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PLP (Post 635821)
Hey guys,

I just ordered mine.
But a quick question.

I heard somewhere, but it could have been regarding other assembly, that there is a turn signal hyper flash issue.

Then I read those are direct plug in - so which one is it?

Also, your take on light intensity vs OEM?

Can you please share the link from where you ordered. I am planning to get a pair for my 2004 986. Thanks !

Escott1622 08-27-2021 01:19 PM

i Am also interested, the ebay one thats normally like 500$ is now 2000 for some reason(probably out of stock).

PLP 08-29-2021 12:10 PM

I got them from eBay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/123676523736
they were about 700, but I returned them.

I advise NOT to get them.
While the brake lights were OK, blinkers are very weak. To the extent I find them unsafe to drive, even at night.
Blinker is OK only at night when not braking, meaning the brake light is not on.
Once the brake is lit - turn signals are barely visible.

I compared it to OEM light bulb and the LED 718 style is way weaker.

They looked cool, although on black car it looked kind of weird, like too much black in the back.

On a separate note - passenger side was leaking. I washed the car and water got inside. I dried it as I thought maybe I did not tighten them enough.
Next rain - water inside again... and that was the main reason for the return.
Dim light - I would be looking how to get them fixed...

Escott1622 08-29-2021 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PLP (Post 641403)
I got them from eBay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/123676523736
they were about 700, but I returned them.

I advise NOT to get them.
While the brake lights were OK, blinkers are very weak. To the extent I find them unsafe to drive, even at night.
Blinker is OK only at night when not braking, meaning the brake light is not on.
Once the brake is lit - turn signals are barely visible.

I compared it to OEM light bulb and the LED 718 style is way weaker.

They looked cool, although on black car it looked kind of weird, like too much black in the back.

On a separate note - passenger side was leaking. I washed the car and water got inside. I dried it as I thought maybe I did not tighten them enough.
Next rain - water inside again... and that was the main reason for the return.
Dim light - I would be looking how to get them fixed...

I’ve seen others not report any issues with brightness? Could it possibly be like a pre updated version

JBauer 08-29-2021 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PLP (Post 641403)
I got them from eBay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/123676523736
they were about 700, but I returned them.

I advise NOT to get them.
While the brake lights were OK, blinkers are very weak. To the extent I find them unsafe to drive, even at night.
Blinker is OK only at night when not braking, meaning the brake light is not on.
Once the brake is lit - turn signals are barely visible.

I compared it to OEM light bulb and the LED 718 style is way weaker.

They looked cool, although on black car it looked kind of weird, like too much black in the back.

On a separate note - passenger side was leaking. I washed the car and water got inside. I dried it as I thought maybe I did not tighten them enough.
Next rain - water inside again... and that was the main reason for the return.
Dim light - I would be looking how to get them fixed...

You must of purchased a bad or cheaper set. I've had mine for around 2 years and none of that is true with the set I bought. The blinkers are plenty bright and I've had 0 leaks.

BRAN 08-30-2021 03:10 AM

not sure, if you had fluid water in them, if so --> instant return, no doubt

They tend to fog up a little, nothing major, if it is rainy and the temperature difference (inside/out) is high. But that happens with most OEM lights, too.
Other than that, no probs so far.

Escott1622 08-31-2021 08:38 PM

I got word that they are indeed out of stock will be November or December then the lister will drop prices back down

ike84 09-01-2021 07:58 AM

amazon had them a few days ago for $300 a pair, not sure if they're still available though

PLP 04-12-2023 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Escott1622 (Post 641487)
I got word that they are indeed out of stock will be November or December then the lister will drop prices back down

Apparently.... they are in stock and have been for a while, but the price is crazy high.
Based on their performance, they are worth maybe 10% of the asking price now.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/184907329121?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=jttC3_NbQHG&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=DjOmHBhRQu i&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

JBauer 04-12-2023 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PLP (Post 652459)
Apparently.... they are in stock and have been for a while, but the price is crazy high.
Based on their performance, they are worth maybe 10% of the asking price now.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/184907329121?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=jttC3_NbQHG&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=DjOmHBhRQu i&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

He doesn't really expect to sell any at that price. He raises the price to keep the listing active when he's out of stock. As soon as them are available they'll be price as before.

10% based on what performance? 🤷

JBauer 04-12-2023 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ike84 (Post 641496)
amazon had them a few days ago for $300 a pair, not sure if they're still available though

The $395 ones on Amazon aren't the same lights. Cheapo version but they're still available.

PLP 04-13-2023 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JBauer (Post 652485)

10% based on what performance? 🤷

Blinker is very dim almost, dangerously dim.

I had a pair. I spent nearly $800 then and while I was trying to justify the blinker's lack of intensity, I could not live with water finding its way into the light.
The right one was leaking. After washing the car, or any rain, would result in anywhere from mist to several ml of water collected on the bottom of the passenger side taillight.

The brake light was great.
The parking light - a bit too intense with comparison to the brake, but still ok-ish.
Blinker - as I said, way too dim. You could "kinda" see it at night with the brake on, while on a sunny day - almost impossible to see.

I was thinking of maybe swapping OEM 718 internals - there are cheap ones on eBay, damaged (cracked lens or broken tabs). All LED functional. So taking the blinker out and swapping to this assembly could be the way to go, but in the end that would be way over $1000 taillight project (about 200 per side plus 800 plus my time)...

So I am back to what I had.


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