2004 Bose or not Bose?

[Smallblock454]

Hm, decent?

We'll see how these decent speakers will sound in 14 years from now on.

Main thing is not the speaker quality, but that there frequency response and sensivity fits electronically and acoustically to the installation situation and the rest of the system. So the volume of the cabin and the volume of the "box". OK most of these "car hifi speakers" are electronically designed to run free air. And there coil tolerances are pretty high to run under very cold as well as very hot and humid conditions. So that is nothing you would tolerate in home hifi.

In general a processor with time alignment, active crossover and eq in a car is much more important for a good staging and sound than a high end speaker.

Or you use passive components to get there. Which in the end is more expensive to develop.

And by the way. These 2 way Alpine or whatever speakers have nothing to do with decent or very good quality. The crossovers in these things are as crappy as the speakers themselves. But hey, if you believe in brands, believe in brands.

Regards, Markus

[Cunningr]

Originally Posted by Smallblock454

Hm, decent?

We'll see how these decent speakers will sound in 14 years from now on.

Main thing is not the speaker quality, but that there frequency response and sensivity fits electronically and acoustically to the installation situation and the rest of the system. So the volume of the cabin and the volume of the "box". OK most of these "car hifi speakers" are electronically designed to run free air. And there coil tolerances are pretty high to run under very cold as well as very hot and humid conditions. So that is nothing you would tolerate in home hifi.

In general a processor with time alignment, active crossover and eq in a car is much more important for a good staging and sound than a high end speaker.

Or you use passive components to get there. Which in the end is more expensive to develop.

And by the way. These 2 way Alpine or whatever speakers have nothing to do with decent or very good quality. The crossovers in these things are as crappy as the speakers themselves. But hey, if you believe in brands, believe in brands.

Regards, Markus

I don't believe anybody here is saying use a specific brand. But I can tell you from experience and actually changing speakers that klipch, JBL GTO, and the blaupunkts all 2 way passive sounded much better than the factory HAES speakers.

I have since installed an 80prs SQ system with time alignment and active crossovers. Alpine PDX-v9 amp, Hertz Mille Pro 3 way components, and modified a passenger foot well Bose sub box from a 996 cabriolet with an 8" pioneer to handle to low end. Still have some tweaking to do, but the system sounds awesome.

My point is its sound quality is all relative to total components ect... but keeping things simple and thinking longer term any of the speakers I mentioned above blew away the HAES components from the factory and going that route would save repeating later.

Fact of the matter is those speakers are (in my case 18 years old), and speaker technology has improved over past 18 years. Out of the 3 speakers I tested the KBL GTO were a nice middle ground for Bass and Highs, but I liked the Klipsch. My new setup different class.