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[mikefocke]

There are three different IMS bearing designs used by Porsche with different failure rates. With different replacement options. So don't lump them together. Differentiate and speak of a specific bearing design.

Any wear part will fail eventually, some earlier, some later.

General information at this site. And there are hundreds of messages already on this forum and a search function available.

[Geof3]

Originally Posted by mikefocke

There are three different IMS bearing designs used by Porsche with different failure rates. With different replacement options. So don't lump them together. Differentiate and speak of a specific bearing design.

Any wear part will fail eventually, some earlier, some later.

General information at this site. And there are hundreds of messages already on this forum and a search function available.

What Mike said. ALL bearings fail eventually. They just do. Not trying to lessen the reality of a dead engine, but it is a reality. One can opine day and night the wisdom of the IMSB design, why they fail etc... but at least it is a known factor, and part of the maint schedule for these motors. I'm facing bearings on all four corners of my Jeep pretty soon. An old Subie motor ate itself a while back... bearing failure. Etc. Etc.

[PaulE]

Originally Posted by mikefocke

...Any wear part will fail eventually, some earlier, some later....

Lubricated for life is a self-fulfilling prophesy though.

[por356c]

Hi Rick - I am sure I’ll get roasted over this, but I just have to say, it’s about $2000 to eliminate this problem. I just don’t understand why some people think that changing oil and inspecting oil filters is going to eliminate this problem. By the time you see metal shavings, it’s very, very likely too late. I can tell you firsthand, it’s a real bad day when that engine fails - it’s about a $12,000 bad day. There is a lot urban legend about this and internet panic. But, for $2000 I just don’t understand why people won’t eliminate that nagging worry every time you get in a car that is supposed to be fun to drive. It’s just the cost of doing business – the cost of owning a Boxster. Of course, we all make our own decisions. Good luck.

[thstone]

Originally Posted by por356c

I can tell you firsthand, it’s a real bad day when that engine fails - it’s about a $12,000 bad day.

I certainly don't want to "roast" anyone but I'm not sure why a failed engine has to be a $12K problem.

My engine just failed again so I had my local shop swap in Engine #5. The total cost was under $4,500:
- Replacement 2.5L engine with 87K miles = $2650 (eBay)
- New plugs, filters, fluids = $300
- Shop labor = $1,500

If I had DIY'd the engine swap, it would have been less than $3K. And I should be good for at least another 75K miles.

Even if I had to do it again in 75K miles (for another $4500), I'd still be way ahead financially compared to a $12K replacement.

[maytag]

Originally Posted by por356c

Hi Rick - I am sure I’ll get roasted over this......
I can tell you firsthand, it’s a real bad day when that engine fails - it’s about a $12,000 bad day.......
But, for $2000 I just don’t understand why people won’t eliminate that nagging worry every time you get in – the cost of owning a Boxster. Of course, we all make our own decisions. Good luck.

Por356, honestly, this post is real doom and gloom kind of stuff!
Many of us would look at this and say: "yeah, you add $2k to the cost of the car and suddenly it's no longer a car I want". Me, personally, that would've tipped me towards the MB SLK I was also considering.

I don't know why it has to be a $12k bill if it fails? That doesn't mirror any of the experiences I've read about here or elsewhere.

And the cost of owning a Porsche? Seriously? The cost of owning a Porsche, to you, is throwing money at a problem because you're so scared the car sucks?

I'm chuckling to myself that this is the same board that told me I shouldn't desnorkel mine, because the Porsche engineers are so smart and always know best. Hahaha

I say drive it. Drive the PISS out of it. And if it fails, then decide (based on how much you like it dislike it) if you'll junk the car, or replace the motor. Either way, THAT'S the point where I'd start adding -up the "cost of owning a Porsche".

Just my $0.02

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