YAIQ - Yet Another Immobilizer Question

[gabedrummin]

Sounds like a bad starter.

[harrg67]

Originally Posted by gabedrummin

Sounds like a bad starter.

Even with the non-functional windows and hood/trunk switches and the fob that's not doing anything?

[particlewave]

Originally Posted by gabedrummin

Sounds like a bad starter.

Originally Posted by harrg67

Even with the non-functional windows and hood/trunk switches and the fob that's not doing anything?

Not likely.

Pull the immobilizer and have a look. You really need to get the front trunk open first so you can disconnect the battery (if you absolutely can't get to the battery, at least pull fuse C3).
Most likely have corroded connectors on the immobilizer (immobilizer replaced, but they never cleaned the connectors...happens a lot).

[flete25]

Check

1. Inmobilizer fuse
2. Check the clutch ignition switch..bihind clutch pedal
3. Check the ignition switch
4. Check ignition relay in rear trunk

[harrg67]

Originally Posted by flete25

Check

1. Inmobilizer fuse
2. Check the clutch ignition switch..bihind clutch pedal
3. Check the ignition switch
4. Check ignition relay in rear trunk

Thank you.
1) Fuse is okay.
2) I will check the clutch switch. Can you just jump the terminals to close the circuit for the test?
3) I have a replacement coming in, will try to test it, though. Other things that rely on the acc position work (ie. the top)
4) Can't get there yet, but I want to check that.

[Starter986]

"... their warranty doesn't apply once the car is sold."

Glad I saw that, and clarified upon their website.

No bueno.

[harrg67]

Originally Posted by Starter986

"... their warranty doesn't apply once the car is sold."

Glad I saw that, and clarified upon their website.

No bueno.

Agreed. They responded with that and a question about the symptoms, but going on the 2nd day without a response. Not the way to earn MY business...

[harrg67]

Originally Posted by particlewave

Not likely.

Pull the immobilizer and have a look. You really need to get the front trunk open first so you can disconnect the battery (if you absolutely can't get to the battery, at least pull fuse C3).
Most likely have corroded connectors on the immobilizer (immobilizer replaced, but they never cleaned the connectors...happens a lot).

Thanks, I will try that. I have been trying to get to the front latch from the bottom but haven't gotten far. I tried the jumper post in the fuse box but that didn't allow anything to open.

[mikefocke]

Check around inside the car for water intrusion given where you are.

How to get that front trunk open? Several ways.

[BirdDog]

If it were me, I'd probably start by changing the ignition switch just to rule that out. A myriad of problems can arise if that is going bad...

Next I'd have a look at the waterproof immobilizer case under the drivers seat. I just installed one in my car last month, and although it wasn't a hard thing to install, the fact that the previous owner(s) changed the immobilizer means that those (large black and white) connectors also saw water. They could be corroded. If the connectors still had water in them when they were sealed inside the waterproof box, they could have continued to corrode after it was sealed up. Also, it's possible that whoever installed the waterproof case didn't do a good job sealing up the wiring harnesses. You really have to work the silicone adhesive into the wire bundles to get it to seal properly.

The top cover of the waterproof case is sealed with a bead of clear silicone sealer all the way around. It might not be the easiest thing to get off.

Hang in there - I'm sure you'll get it all sorted out!

[harrg67]

Originally Posted by BirdDog

If it were me, I'd probably start by changing the ignition switch just to rule that out. A myriad of problems can arise if that is going bad...

Next I'd have a look at the waterproof immobilizer case under the drivers seat. I just installed one in my car last month, and although it wasn't a hard thing to install, the fact that the previous owner(s) changed the immobilizer means that those (large black and white) connectors also saw water. They could be corroded. If the connectors still had water in them when they were sealed inside the waterproof box, they could have continued to corrode after it was sealed up. Also, it's possible that whoever installed the waterproof case didn't do a good job sealing up the wiring harnesses. You really have to work the silicone adhesive into the wire bundles to get it to seal properly.

The top cover of the waterproof case is sealed with a bead of clear silicone sealer all the way around. It might not be the easiest thing to get off.

Hang in there - I'm sure you'll get it all sorted out!

Thank you! I took a brief look at it and there seems to be something vasoline on it. I don't think these people knew what they were doing. I suspect you're right in all ways that it wasn't installed properly.

[harrg67]

Originally Posted by mikefocke

Check around inside the car for water intrusion given where you are.

How to get that front trunk open? Several ways.

Will do that in the morning and thank you for the reference link.