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Nine8Six 09-07-2017 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by That986 (Post 549211)
The paranoia is real with you guys.

(edit: wt... talking like that about my friends online. Censured)

Live the moments!!! its just mechanics
:cheers:

Engine reliability - top 10 brands according to Warranty Direct

1. Honda (failure rate: 1 in 344)
2. Toyota (failure rate: 1 in 171)
3. Mercedes-Benz (failure rate: 1 in 119)
4. Volvo (failure rate: 1 in 111)
5. Jaguar (failure rate: 1 in 103)
6. Lexus (failure rate: 1 in 101)
7. Fiat (failure rate: 1 in 85)
8. Ford (failure rate: 1 in 80)
9. Nissan (failure rate: 1 in 76)
10. Land Rover (failure rate: 1 in 72)

Engine reliability - bottom 10 brands according to Warranty Direct

1. MG Rover (failure rate: 1 in 13)
2. Audi (failure rate: 1 in 27)
3. Mini (failure rate: 1 in 40)
4. Saab (failure rate: 1 in 40)
5. Vauxhall (failure rate: 1 in 41)
6. Peugeot (failure rate: 1 in 44)
7. BMW (failure rate: 1 in 45)
8. Renault (failure rate: 1 in 46)
9. Volkswagen (failure rate: 1 in 52)
10. Mitsubishi (failure rate: 1 in 59)

p3230 09-07-2017 07:58 AM

Amen to that.

jb92563 09-07-2017 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 549214)
Engine reliability - top 10 brands according to Warranty Direct

1. Honda (failure rate: 1 in 344)
2. Toyota (failure rate: 1 in 171)
3. Mercedes-Benz (failure rate: 1 in 119)
4. Volvo (failure rate: 1 in 111)
5. Jaguar (failure rate: 1 in 103)
6. Lexus (failure rate: 1 in 101)
7. Fiat (failure rate: 1 in 85)
8. Ford (failure rate: 1 in 80)
9. Nissan (failure rate: 1 in 76)
10. Land Rover (failure rate: 1 in 72)

Engine reliability - bottom 10 brands according to Warranty Direct

1. MG Rover (failure rate: 1 in 13)
2. Audi (failure rate: 1 in 27)
3. Mini (failure rate: 1 in 40)
4. Saab (failure rate: 1 in 40)
5. Vauxhall (failure rate: 1 in 41)
6. Peugeot (failure rate: 1 in 44)
7. BMW (failure rate: 1 in 45)
8. Renault (failure rate: 1 in 46)
9. Volkswagen (failure rate: 1 in 52)
10. Mitsubishi (failure rate: 1 in 59)

Since the above covers entire brand model lines it does not reflect our particular model concerns but it does show that Porsche does not have systemic issues with their motors, which is what you would expect.

I have my original IMS on my 01 S with 82k Miles, but I looked up the class action suit for VINs with likely IMS issues and mine is not in those batches and is also a Dual Row IMS which reduces the odds of failure even more.

I decided not to worry about it and if something does happen I'll consider it an upgrade opportunity ;). A custom rebuilt drowned engine would be a good bet.

Every time a Hurricane hits the East Coast we get a new supply of used engines from drowned cars and it looks like 2 or 3 are on the way now.

I can't even imagine why anyone would leave their Boxster in harms way...unless it has a failing IMS :D

JFP in PA 09-07-2017 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jb92563 (Post 549267)
I have my original IMS on my 01 S with 82k Miles, but I looked up the class action suit for VINs with likely IMS issues and mine is not in those batches and is also a Dual Row IMS which reduces the odds of failure even more.

Exactly how do you know yours is a dual row?

Fintro11 09-07-2017 08:13 PM

Pulled the seal off my old bearinghttp://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1504843987.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1504844004.jpg

Nine8Six 09-07-2017 09:29 PM

For folks who haven't changed their IMSB, I strongly advice seeing this movie.

It is going to change your life forever lollll

Mine (2016) - IMDb

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/4441504848504.jpg


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/44441504848513.jpg

Boxstard 09-08-2017 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Fintro11 (Post 549303)

Looks nicely lubed up to me.. exactly what I am hoping for my car every time I rev it up and kick some oil up there. No excessive play you can feel on the inner lace?

jb92563 09-08-2017 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JFP in PA (Post 549271)
Exactly how do you know yours is a dual row?

When I did my clutch job I visually checked it like in my post: http://986forum.com/forums/507440-post28.html

JFP in PA 09-08-2017 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jb92563 (Post 549321)
When I did my clutch job I visually checked it like in my post: http://986forum.com/forums/507440-post28.html

Fine. We see a lot of people that claim they know which IMS style is in a 2000-2001 from VIN numbers, build dates, or phases of the moon; none of which work.

BRAN 09-08-2017 08:26 AM

Have faith, AMEN!

I keep calm and drive on...lol

joecal 09-11-2017 04:47 AM

I have a 99 with about 111,600 on the car and as far as I know the IMS is original.

clickman 09-11-2017 07:20 AM

A well respected indie I know had a LN he installed fail after 20k km. Doesn't know why. The only sure things in life are death and taxes.

fourniem 09-11-2017 11:02 AM

268,000 Km on mine.. never touched the IMS..

kk2002s 09-12-2017 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fourniem (Post 549543)
268,000 Km on mine.. never touched the IMS..

Come on that's like only 166,500 miles, just getting broke in. Your probably on the original WP and AOS

Do you have any oil leaks?

GaryMulcahey 09-14-2017 05:55 PM

Only 76,000 Km, all original on a 99'

KRAM36 10-05-2017 07:29 PM

124k miles on my 03 S original IMSB.

JOC IN IL 10-07-2017 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxstard (Post 549315)
Looks nicely lubed up to me.. exactly what I am hoping for my car every time I rev it up and kick some oil up there. No excessive play you can feel on the inner lace?

Thanks for the photo- now i know what IMS bearing looks like w/o the seal with oil inside. I plan on keep driving till need a clutch or rear mail seal then i will probably replace the IMS bearing. Rear seal has a very minor leak. I got 03 boxster 73K miles 5 spd. Just did oil change and air cleaner filter replacement last weekend. I will cut the old oil filter and check for bearing shavings. no service history just got the car w/70k miles 4-5 months ago.

Krooked 10-07-2017 01:03 PM

78.5K miles on my '05 with the original IMS. Like many have stated in this thread, I'll treat it like a wear item and replace it when I replace the clutch and RMS. Seems like a waste to go to all that effort to simply swap out the IMS. If she pops, I'll gladly replace the engine for a newer, more powerful version, since the rest of the car is in fantastic shape.

bmsamson 10-27-2017 02:27 PM

115k still on original IMS
 
I discussed this with my indy when I first took it to him for service after I purchased. He's worked on Porsches for decades, first in a dealership and then on his own, and strongly recommended against, even at a clutch change. Basic feeling was, those that would fail have failed already, based on all his observations of the many that have come under his wrenches since the introduction of the Boxster.

One hears a lot about how essential it is to replace the bearing but not about real world, current, failures. I'm of a mind to chalk this up to a great marketing job by the manufacturer rather than a real need at this point.

Franco 10-29-2017 05:15 AM

Nope and not worried.:D


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