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JayG 02-07-2017 02:23 PM

If they accept the artwork, they will create the shirt with lots of options (short sleeve, long sleeve, sweatshirt, etc) and post it on their website. They make them all limited editions and are only available for a few days.

They have great quality and good pricing. If they accept it, Ill order one for you:cheers:

Nine8Six 02-07-2017 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayG (Post 526095)
If they accept the artwork, they will create the shirt with lots of options (short sleeve, long sleeve, sweatshirt, etc) and post it on their website. They make them all limited editions and are only available for a few days.

They have great quality and good pricing. If they accept it, Ill order one for you:cheers:

You-Are-a-Top-Man!!! Fingers crossed in that case :cheers:

Keep us posted, I'll go spray the Boxster S with more air in a meantime (tell me when you had enough loll)

MarkAP 02-07-2017 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eicheldp (Post 526075)
Wow,
What a great design. Put me down for one. Size = XL.

@Fred - I wish I had your toys. I always enjoyed CFD when I was modelling furnaces for heat treatment. Sadly retirement took those toys away. Great rasters Fred! :cool:

I'm in for one in XL too.

Nine8Six 02-08-2017 02:41 AM

deleted. I'll re-post the 'correct' viz in a bit :/

fridsten 02-08-2017 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78F350 (Post 526066)
Thanks, got the image. ...I really need to get some good fonts.
Here's a layout put together with Gimp:
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/547/32...d7f842c7_b.jpg

or a little busier.

One tiny detail, and you should only care if you're really anal about these things - which I am.
The picture is not of a Boxster S.

Smallblock454 02-08-2017 06:38 AM

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/581/32...97416a9a_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/382/31...c24f3ea8_b.jpg

Hm, i don't know. There must be something wrong with the calculations. :D Because the top speed of the car is faster with the top closed than with the top open.

Maybe you can recalculate at 260 Km/h? :D

Regards, Markus

PS:

Great - i need 1 2:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1486478752.jpg

Nine8Six 02-08-2017 11:15 AM

Markus, we'll never be able to make friend if you continue your rampage man LOL
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Here goes the real deal. Same: 180km/hr. Enough 'wallpapers' and 'streamlines' otherwise it all leads to confusions and members mocking up the mighty Boxster's science-of-winds!

Those familiar with CFD, I'm using using the K-Epsilon turbulence model here so this is as accurate/advanced as real-life as it possibly can be. Commercially available to us anyway. Hopefully next week when all have recovered from seeing green & yellow I'll push those same but with the topless boxster (same format/grid, so to de-comfuse Markus).

Have fun (TRK!)


Air Velocity

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/568/32...d04540d2_b.jpg


Air Density

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/659/32...c806dfdf_b.jpg


Total Pressure

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/643/32...c623a98f_b.jpg


Static Pressure

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/445/32...9e762a08_b.jpg


Turbulence Energy

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/639/32...800eab8a_b.jpg


Turbulence Dissipation

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/726/32...e9ca3140_b.jpg

Smallblock454 02-08-2017 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 526214)
Markus, we'll never be able to make friend if you continue your rampage man LOL
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What? :D

Man, now i know what happened. You've used a cheap chinese 3D model for you calculations. :D

Just compare the silhouette of the real car with your 3D CAD car. ;) No wonder, that the top down is faster than the top closed. :D

http://image.superstreetonline.com/f...bside_view.jpg

Regards, Markus :cheers:

Nine8Six 02-08-2017 01:24 PM

Silly me. I'll contact Dr Yang Procshe to get this fixed right away. Totally (totally) unacceptable and unreasonable.

Jeez don't they know who I am and where I'm from?

Wroom wroom!

Nine8Six 02-08-2017 03:27 PM

Topless version (ignore the title in the plots)
 
So I went to Dr Yang Proshche to complain but came back emptied hands.

Even the part when I told him where my ancestors comes from had-no-effect whatsoever. He asked WHY you need this model so perfectly accurate then? So I shown him what I do and he suddenly became all agitated and started acting all weird. Not very used with this type of f'ed up behavior so I quickly left and did those for you guys - nonetheless ;)

Fascinating comparaisons


Air Velocity

https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3704/3...1e290db3_b.jpg


Air density

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2124/3...be0bf0b8_b.jpg


Total Pressure

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2363/3...fcb7dc50_b.jpg


Static Pressure

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2139/3...7432d20b_b.jpg


Turbulence Energy

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2085/3...aa020924_b.jpg


Turbulence Dissipation

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2663/3...eb8d1fed_b.jpg

jb92563 02-08-2017 03:35 PM

Huh, apart from some drag, I'm not seeing much down force effect at the spoiler.

Perhaps Boxsters need whale tails :p

Fascinating results though, thanks for posting them.

Nine8Six 02-08-2017 03:43 PM

You are very welcome Sir :cheers:

That spoiler thing does somehow get cancelled at speed, for some reason. Boxster wasn't necessarily designed for racing I think.

Me think you are 100% correct about the requirement for a wing on the "track only" 986. But again, not a 'car mosport' professional at all here. Just leaving those here for you guys to judge

Smallblock454 02-08-2017 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 526214)

Dear Sir Mr. Nine8six,

could you please ask Dr. Yang Proshche if there is a mistake in the pictures. Because besides the text the picture looks the same, whereas at the open top pictures they look different.

Honestly, your how can we be rampage friends guy.

JayG 02-08-2017 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jb92563 (Post 526274)
Huh, apart from some drag, I'm not seeing much down force effect at the spoiler.

Perhaps Boxsters need whale tails :p

Fascinating results though, thanks for posting them.

That's because a spoiler does not create down force, it reduces lift
aerodynamics 101

Nine8Six 02-08-2017 05:14 PM

Deleted - misleading grid.

if Jay doesn't understand it I don't think many will.

JayG 02-08-2017 05:17 PM

^^^^^^
OK Fred, what does all that mean????

Nine8Six 02-08-2017 05:28 PM

Edit: you know what bud, I've delete this grid because this will be interpreted wrongly by ppl... you can imagine what could happen next.

Better be safer than sorry lolll Let's just look at the pretty pics... not real-life but at least we have something to compare with.

Nine8Six 02-08-2017 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smallblock454 (Post 526226)
Man, now i know what happened. You've used a cheap chinese 3D model for you calculations. :D

http://image.superstreetonline.com/f...bside_view.jpg

There you go, special for you Markus. Took a snapshoot of my super duper Virtual Boxster Z in "perspective" mode just like your friend's did with his camera lens. Those simulation plots weren't screen-captured in perspective mode (and a bit dark) but if you want them like that next time, hey man, me-can-do-special-fo-yu :cool:

Wroooooom!

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1486612308.jpg

Nine8Six 02-08-2017 07:34 PM

Markus Markus Markus... they are everywhere on my hard drives here, all in CAD, class A&B surfaces, G2/3 curve continuity and all man. Markus.... its crazy, I have a Virtual Porsche Inventory. Which is faster on a windy day you think?! the Carrera or GT4?

(lolll I think I win a price for the most picture intensive thread page ever recorded)


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1486614743.jpg


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1486614751.jpg


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/GT41486614758.jpg

78F350 02-08-2017 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 526315)
There you go, special for you Markus. Took a snapshoot of my super duper Virtual Boxster Z in "perspective" mode just like your friend's did with his camera lens. Those simulation plots weren't screen-captured in perspective mode (and a bit dark) but if you want them like that next time, hey man, me-can-do-special-fo-yu :cool:

Wroooooom!

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1486612308.jpg

I was wondering if the major difference in those profile shots (aside from perspective) was that yours was a center-line cross section. No display of fender contours?


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