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Old 01-29-2017, 10:14 AM   #1
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Some time back, an engineer with a background in vibration analysis tried to deploy what appeared to be a very sophisticated technique and equipment to do exactly that. Unfortunately, his efforts went no where due primarily to interference vibration signals from other sources in the engine. Google it, it has already been tried and discarded.
IC engine, rotary machinery, source doesn't matter or perhaps VA is misunderstood here. Aquisition would come from the horizontal, vertical and axial planes near the shaft/bearing (not from an object particularly e.g IC engine). Vibrations are 'freq' (in words) and can easily be filtered out if somehow seen as 'interference' by your equipment/engineer. In fact the more you have the better really. Seriously I'd just call your local Siemens rep and get them to help as one of their Eng Dept is doing this all day long (yes, on cars too, google it). They offer completely free training shall you decide to use their technologies (as in, you could do it yourself afterward bud).

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As far as predictive technology goes there is of course oil analysis and the IMS Guardian (is it still available?) although I can't say how well that works.
Predictive: That is exactly what I am talking about and I don't see why not this guardian thing wouldn't work (if I've understood its concept correctly). Actually a brilliant idea and I couldn't recommend it more. Certainly a better technique than just wacking out perfectly fine bearings.

OT. Can someone let me know why my Porsche dealer categorically refuses (even if I pay) to periodically replace my bearing? They strongly recommend me NOT to do it. Would it be because it'd be seen an acknowledgement to the class action in a way? Are your P dealers fine with it in the USA?

Don't believe me? just call the dealership here in Shanghai (although this was back in 2008/09)
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Old 01-29-2017, 10:27 AM   #3
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OT. Can someone let me know why my Porsche dealer categorically refuses (even if I pay) to periodically replace my bearing? They strongly recommend me NOT to do it. Would it be because it'd be seen an acknowledgement to the class action in a way? Are your P dealers fine with it in the USA?
What can I lose? Simple: time and money. Multiple fixes already exist for the problem, and I am not in the business of re-engineering Porsche's problems. As previously mentioned, and experienced engineer in this field could not make it work, even with help from a university.

Porsche very quietly released a memo to their dealer network years ago stating that in their "official" opinion, it was not possible to replace the IMS bearing without taking the engine apart. This gave the dealers an out, both not to get involved in retrofits, and to void warranties on engines that had one done. So while some dealers actually sent techs to Jake's IMS class and quietly did do retrofits, most dealers stayed with the factory line" It cannot be done."

Another point is Porsche's parts network; they only sell complete replacement IMS shafts with the bearing already in them, they have never offered the bearing as a separate part.
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What can I lose? Simple: time and money.
Time & money: I'd rather spend this on cocaine and prostitutes, well, if I had any of that time OR money to spend at the first place anyway

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Porsche very quietly released a memo to their dealer network years ago stating that in their "official" opinion, it was not possible to replace the IMS bearing without taking the engine apart. This gave the dealers an out, both not to get involved in retrofits, and to void warranties on engines that had one done. So while some dealers actually sent techs to Jake's IMS class and quietly did do retrofits, most dealers stayed with the factory line" It cannot be done."

Another point is Porsche's parts network; they only sell complete replacement IMS shafts with the bearing already in them, they have never offered the bearing as a separate part.
I c, thanks for the explanation. Sux they don't really. I was forced yo learn how to live and enjoy with the risk
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