08-15-2016, 09:11 AM
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Location: Atlanta
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Hammerhead Woes
Yes indeed, a $20K hit. The main reason for selling was I never was able to gain any confidence in the car. The engine failure was 2 weeks after buying the car. I was glad to find Flat6Innovations. High priced indeed but I was willing to spend the money because I was convinced the guys up there had more experience with this engine than anyone. They were very professional and did the rebuild within weeks. There were a couple of disappointments. When I went to pick the car up they told me my right front fan was not working and I could go to Reenlist for a easy fix. Seems after spending $14K they could have at least diagnosed the problem. Turns out it, after taking it to another shop closer to home, the fan was unplugged. The other thing was the dreaded CEL came on after having the car back a week. Call them and they said oh you probably didn't tighten the gas cap. Nothing to worry about. Then on a road trip halfway to Savannah I lost 1st, 3rd, and 5th gears. I hobbled the car back home, abandoning the trip, and someone on this site actually helped me find the problem. One of the lineage cables had come off. Birthday was coming up so I had to address the CEL. $1500. for 2 evaporative emission valves. One more week passes, CEL wonderfully reappears. Back to the shop, another $500. for a third evaporative emissions valve. Quick get the emissions done!!! Another week passes and the car starts overheating. Final straw.
I was at the point where I didn't even want to drive the car anymore. I didn't even like seeing it in my garage when the door raised. Thus, my Porsche ownership experience was a painful experience. Glad it's behind me.
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Last edited by Hammerhead2501; 08-15-2016 at 09:13 AM.
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08-15-2016, 10:43 AM
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2003 S, Arctic Silver, M6
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
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Not that I plan on selling my 03 S but if I do I have the IMS retrofit job invoice with date, mileage and all that was done spelled out and also the LN Engineering serial number label affixed to the rear trunk inner lip plus the old bearing and flange as a paper weight.
After spending all that money on a the IMS bearing, RMS, clutch, flywheel, and clutch/brake fluid change, I'll make sure I have proof it was all done.
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08-15-2016, 11:03 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ft. Leonard Wood
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Wow!
A $14k repair bill and they hand you back a barely operable vehicle that quickly circles the drain? Yikes...
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead2501
Yes indeed, a $20K hit. The main reason for selling was I never was able to gain any confidence in the car. The engine failure was 2 weeks after buying the car. I was glad to find Flat6Innovations. High priced indeed but I was willing to spend the money because I was convinced the guys up there had more experience with this engine than anyone. They were very professional and did the rebuild within weeks. There were a couple of disappointments. When I went to pick the car up they told me my right front fan was not working and I could go to Reenlist for a easy fix. Seems after spending $14K they could have at least diagnosed the problem. Turns out it, after taking it to another shop closer to home, the fan was unplugged. The other thing was the dreaded CEL came on after having the car back a week. Call them and they said oh you probably didn't tighten the gas cap. Nothing to worry about. Then on a road trip halfway to Savannah I lost 1st, 3rd, and 5th gears. I hobbled the car back home, abandoning the trip, and someone on this site actually helped me find the problem. One of the lineage cables had come off. Birthday was coming up so I had to address the CEL. $1500. for 2 evaporative emission valves. One more week passes, CEL wonderfully reappears. Back to the shop, another $500. for a third evaporative emissions valve. Quick get the emissions done!!! Another week passes and the car starts overheating. Final straw.
I was at the point where I didn't even want to drive the car anymore. I didn't even like seeing it in my garage when the door raised. Thus, my Porsche ownership experience was a painful experience. Glad it's behind me.
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08-15-2016, 02:23 PM
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2003 S, Arctic Silver, M6
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
Posts: 1,346
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead2501
Yes indeed, a $20K hit. The main reason for selling was I never was able to gain any confidence in the car. The engine failure was 2 weeks after buying the car. I was glad to find Flat6Innovations. High priced indeed but I was willing to spend the money because I was convinced the guys up there had more experience with this engine than anyone. They were very professional and did the rebuild within weeks. There were a couple of disappointments. When I went to pick the car up they told me my right front fan was not working and I could go to Reenlist for a easy fix. Seems after spending $14K they could have at least diagnosed the problem. Turns out it, after taking it to another shop closer to home, the fan was unplugged. The other thing was the dreaded CEL came on after having the car back a week. Call them and they said oh you probably didn't tighten the gas cap. Nothing to worry about. Then on a road trip halfway to Savannah I lost 1st, 3rd, and 5th gears. I hobbled the car back home, abandoning the trip, and someone on this site actually helped me find the problem. One of the lineage cables had come off. Birthday was coming up so I had to address the CEL. $1500. for 2 evaporative emission valves. One more week passes, CEL wonderfully reappears. Back to the shop, another $500. for a third evaporative emissions valve. Quick get the emissions done!!! Another week passes and the car starts overheating. Final straw.
I was at the point where I didn't even want to drive the car anymore. I didn't even like seeing it in my garage when the door raised. Thus, my Porsche ownership experience was a painful experience. Glad it's behind me.
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And so far no response or reaction from flat 6 inno?
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08-15-2016, 03:47 PM
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New Porsche Fan
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 122
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammerhead2501
Yes indeed, a $20K hit. The main reason for selling was I never was able to gain any confidence in the car. The engine failure was 2 weeks after buying the car. I was glad to find Flat6Innovations. High priced indeed but I was willing to spend the money because I was convinced the guys up there had more experience with this engine than anyone. They were very professional and did the rebuild within weeks. There were a couple of disappointments. When I went to pick the car up they told me my right front fan was not working and I could go to Reenlist for a easy fix. Seems after spending $14K they could have at least diagnosed the problem. Turns out it, after taking it to another shop closer to home, the fan was unplugged. The other thing was the dreaded CEL came on after having the car back a week. Call them and they said oh you probably didn't tighten the gas cap. Nothing to worry about. Then on a road trip halfway to Savannah I lost 1st, 3rd, and 5th gears. I hobbled the car back home, abandoning the trip, and someone on this site actually helped me find the problem. One of the lineage cables had come off. Birthday was coming up so I had to address the CEL. $1500. for 2 evaporative emission valves. One more week passes, CEL wonderfully reappears. Back to the shop, another $500. for a third evaporative emissions valve. Quick get the emissions done!!! Another week passes and the car starts overheating. Final straw.
I was at the point where I didn't even want to drive the car anymore. I didn't even like seeing it in my garage when the door raised. Thus, my Porsche ownership experience was a painful experience. Glad it's behind me.
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I am unfortunately falling down a similar part sir. Overpaid for a 01 with 90K miles on it ($11,000)...now after investing another $6000-7000 into it I'm STILL not about to drive it. It's at the shop now...immobilizer board. Won't start...not sure how much THAT'S going to cost but I'm done. I have it for sell now. Getting calls but can't even show it because it won't start. I'm ready to move on too
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08-15-2016, 04:16 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Atlanta
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Flat 6
I listed the reasons why I eventually cut my loses. This is not, nor is it meant to be, anything against Flat 6 Innovations. I hired them to do a job and they did it. I put about 5K miles on the car after the rebuild. There were plenty of smiles during those miles but in the end the aggravation of things going wrong on this particular car coupled with the repair bills just became too much.
Flat 6 Innovations, in my opinion, is a very reputable establishment, and has spent years on R&D to improve the problems with these engines. They have many loyal customers worldwide and are, in my book, completely justified for charging whatever they want to to provide the service they do. After researching, I decided to take my car there and I am not unhappy that I did.
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08-15-2016, 05:40 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Agoura Hills (LA) So.Cal.
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I listed the reasons why I eventually cut my loses.
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Wow.... that is a hell of an ordeal to go through. I can't blame you for bailing.
What did you replace it with?
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08-15-2016, 05:52 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Listowel, Ontario, Canada
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And this is a good lesson in buying the newest Porsche you can afford.....might cost more upfront, but you give yourself more piece of mind and worry free driving. Instead of dumping 20k into the car, you could have bought an 06 or so and not had IMS and much newer ride. Unless you car really wrench them yourself, Porsches can be very expensive.
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