Stelan 986 targa project rendering
 

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I'm working on a targa top for my 986 and that's how is going to look
I will post progress photos, so far all cnc slices are done, frame is completed, basic structure is done, clay modeling done and in the final stages of the model, next sand and refine to create the fiberglass mold

I love targas... Stared at the new one at Porsche Plano while getting a new key programmed. And the the spyders on display. This should be cheaper than the $141k targa on the dealer showroom floor haha

Best of luck - it will be tricky to perfect the integration.


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thanks, yes is been a challenge but the worst part is done and I'm lucky as I have a team of very skilled people assisting :)

I like it, when doen?
selling?
thx, m

Interesting how your roll hoop comes forward over the drivers head. Curious to see if/how it cuts down on wind buffeting.

It should help, it is inspired on the 918 spyder

Thank you, We are splashing molds perhaps we will make a few

Got a rear view?

Is the entire black part tinted black Plexi or is it fiberglass with a rear window?

Cool idea.

I like all the creative minds out there that enjoy a challenge and are putting their creativity to work.

The Porsche Design team should be checking out what is going on here. Tons of fabulous options have popped up.

So here are our top options:

1) Spyder (Pedro)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6...42/Spyder3.jpg

2) Cayman (Z-top)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w...42/s-l1600.jpg

3) Factory Hard Top
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C...actory_top.jpg

4) Factory 2003-04 4-Bow Convertible
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-O...3_4bow_top.jpg

5) Targa (Stelan)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-d.../targa_top.jpg

Any Others?

I have a boxster carcass you can have if you need something to use for fabrication purposes?

The entire top is fiberglass but it has a hatch with window for engine access/rear view? I think the black targa, silver hoop and black rear looks good but I have other versions in mind, see this one with rear section painted the color of the car, I will post other angles soon

Thanks Woody, I will take you on that if need to, right now my red 99 is covered in blue tape to avoid damages

This looks really good, can't wait to see the finished product!

i never get tired to share some hardtop ideas :cheers:
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1457626219.jpg
half-zeintop mod
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1457626261.jpg
stola gts
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1457626296.jpg
cayman 981 style
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1457626457.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1457626489.jpg
techart top

...and there are more out there :D

well, here's the dmoris top:

http://www.renntech.org/forums/uploa...1155000288.jpg

and the british one:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1376274451.jpg

don't forget eric's 996-style race top (w 996 side windows):

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1432541811.jpg

or the renegade hybrids/boxtcars cayman-style tops (again w 996 side windows):

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1415225149.jpg

here's a cool pic of a zeintop without the hatch (that's what bran used for his photoshop work below):

http://a3.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/i...538d24db/l.jpg

and back on topic and talking targa, here's a cool rendering with the longer glass back and 996 windows:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-a...nTarga2012.jpg

dunno if you would need a hatch in the back - depending on how it is attached (ie, just two spinlocks) you could just remove the roof to access engine.

if we are talking FG work and opportunities, I think it would be an interesting project to join the tonneau and the rear trunk into one panel:

http://www.deutschnine.com/porsche-b...oxster-986.jpg
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delete your roof motors/transmissions, the spoiler mechanism, the tonneau cover (keep the tonneau hinges) and the rear trunk lid/hinges. replace with a lightweight 'combo' panel that attaches at the tonneau hinges at the front and the trunk latch at the back. pop the trunk to put roof up and down. save 100 lbs. use a fg tonneau and a fg techart rear trunk lid as a base - the techart lid doesn't have the third brake light cutout, and is longer to cover where the spoiler usually is - eliminates a lot of trim lines on the rear and would really clean things up.

and if that works and is cool, take it one step further and 'glass in a set of speedster humps to get the spyder look on the cheap (ie, not the $7500 tuneRS unit):

http://static.usedcarstock.com/photos/19192/0a.jpg

combining them all into one panel gets rid of all the trim lines and gaps of the current speedster hump system. further, as one panel, you can attach at the spinlocks and rear trunk latch and be done with it - allows you to drive w/o the actual convertible top and save another 50 lbs (and better areo). mebbe get a boat/canvas shop to make a little bimini top for it using the oem front convertible roof bar.

another thought - if you look at the roofline on a cayman, boxster hardtop, etc., it rises as it leaves the windscreen, then starts to drop once past the roll bar (presumably to provide headroom). by angling the targa hoop forwards as you have, it is now at a much higher point in the roofline than it would be if angled backwards, and is actually higher than the windscreen as currently designed - gonna grab a lot of air.

Agreed. The 918 is a spyder, it doesn't have that large space for air behind the seats like the Boxster would. The new 911 Targa has an adjustable wind blocker at the top of the windshield header, which helped reduce buffeting in the one I drove, but did create a little more wind noise.
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1457630464.jpg

I remember this one...makes me wonder what a 718 Targa would look like....

a rough sketch...hmm...targa look...not bad :cool:
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1457631575.jpg
but how to shape that "glas" and how to secure it? Half roll cage bars behind the seats?
:D

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-a...nTarga2012.jpg

That greenhouse makes me think of the '76-'81 camaro/firebird for some reason. I hate to say this but I think something more 914ish would be fitting.:D

The techart top with a defined roll hoop would look the best IMO.

That and the color!!! I think in a different color with a blacked-out hoop, it would look cool. Someone posted this here a while back....sorry for the horrid photoshop of the hoop.

Imagine this in red, with a black hoop.

Stelan - I applaud your creativity and initiative. But...

It is hard to look at. The forward sweep of the hoop doesn't flow with anything on the car and further adds to the "which end is the front" that our cars already suffer from. It's unpleasant to the eye.
Being above the windshield, it will also catch a lot of air, as previously mentioned. I don't imagine it would take long for this thing to rip itself off

The bubble shape of the rear "window" also makes it look like the Porsche Pope-Mobile.

^^^^ Here's the pic I couldn't attach....

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1457637935.jpg

On the red renderings it appears that the leading edge of the hoop is higher that the trailing edge of the windscreen. This is what the C6 Corvettes had with their Targa top design, and it caused severe buffeting. Somebody developed an aftermarket spacer that fit between the rear hatch lid latch and the body to allow air flow and reduce interior turbulence. With the top off the cockpit was like one of those tubes people stand in and try to grab loose paper money. The 911 Targa did not suffer from that problem.

and if I was any better at photoshop I would be terrible ...

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1457639067.jpg

The only way I see to do this is to make a top that also replaces the rear trunk lid. Otherwise, you're going to end up with the short and tiny Targa bubble that has been shown in the renderings.

dibs on the designs :rolleyes:

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http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1457715816.jpg
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or how about that one, kinda sorta:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1457715868.jpg
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Me likey!
 

Want!.
pure and simple. I want the silver one...

thx, for stoking my fire.

the targa concept kinda grows on me :D
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have no idea about doability, concerning the glass (or equivalent) :rolleyes:
But it looks cool, no doubt :cool:

@BRAN

It looks extra great on your car considering its outlaw theme.

The rendering may be a little deceiving I looked at the actual completed model edge on the top compared to the windshield and is lower, beaides with mu poor knowledge of aerodynamics and experience with my other porsches and c5 the air gets deflected up from the windshield up, I made a targa for one of the 356 speedsters I made and it was the quietest ride you can have on an open top car I ever had and the windshield on the 356 is tiny, anyway I should be see on the first test drive with the actual thing. Those photoshoped ones look way cool, keep on playing with it

Thank you, guys. Can't wait to see your finished "real" hardtop, Stelan!:cheers:

I did a quick research and even found a company for car glass roofs/concepts etc. (Home | freeglass) ...not so sure about their interest in "micro" quantities...:D

As the Porsche 550 and the Karmann Ghia seem to share a lot of genes, how about a Karmann Ghia Top :D
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1458382717.jpg

There are a lot of good looking renderings being shown here but I will hold out for a folding hardtop to replace the factory soft top. If Mazda can do it with their Miata then Porsche will eventually with the Boxster. One can hope it would be backward compatible. With modern alloys and/or composites it can be made to be strong and lighweight.
Stupid question: with any of these hardtops do you have to remove the top to service the engine ?

@BRAN

I like that look, it's definitely more VW then porsche, but that really isn't a bad thing.

@rfuerst911sc you have to remove the factory hardtop to get to the top side of the engine so I would assume you must do the same with any of these, particularly if they fit over the soft top as it is down like the factory top does.

Nope on mine there is rear hatch with clear window and gives you access to the engine, the none targa version model is finish and we are going to splash molds next

Smart engineering on your part will continue to follow your progress . :cheers:

How could the convertible top be placed in service mode in this case? Or would the convertible top be removed before top installation?