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				Does anyone else find themselves automatically stabbing the key into the left (or right) side of the dash when they get in another car? 
			
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And when I drive either my Suburban or my truck, I'm always reaching for the center console for the window switches.    
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-13-2015, 06:49 AM
			
			
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				And when I drive either my Suburban or my truck, I'm always reaching for the center console for the window switches.     
			
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I really do think that of all the things these cars do right. what they do best is ergonomics. People complain about the interior of 9X6 Porsche's but everything is just in the perfect place.
 
Reach down and lower both windows at once with index and middle finger.
 
turn the intermittent wiper gauge thing with the right hand.
 
The trunk release is extremely easy to grab while getting out of the car. 
 
Sitting comfortably in the seat my wrists are right on top of the wheel when arms extended making the driving position perfect. 
 
The location of the shifter in relation to everything else.
 
Even the way my elbow fits perfectly into the divot of the door pocket cover.
 
Whoever is responsible for the ergonomics in the boxster is a legend.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-13-2015, 06:50 AM
			
			
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				And when I drive either my Suburban or my truck, I'm always reaching for the center console for the window switches.     
			
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When I'm in our Sequoia, I can never find the button to put the top down...
 
ETA: I think that's my modern, less cool Le Mans start - left hand turning key, right hand grabbing latch for the top.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			11-13-2015, 09:36 AM
			
			
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			Somebody finally did something for us lefties.:dance:
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-13-2015, 10:20 AM
			
			
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				And when I drive either my Suburban or my truck, I'm always reaching for the center console for the window switches.     
			
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More broadly when I drove stick everytime I got into the car I immediately put my right foot on the brake and went to depress the clutch with my left foot. You look pretty dumb doing that when you get into a car that doesn't have one.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			11-13-2015, 10:21 AM
			
			
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				And when I drive either my Suburban or my truck, I'm always reaching for the center console for the window switches.     
			
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Always hated the window controls in the middle....fortunately, they moved them on the new rides to the door.
 
The switches in the middle always reminded me of my wife's old winter beater Pontiac Sunfire.  Crappy car - so anything remotely the same as that brought back bad memories!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-13-2015, 11:31 AM
			
			
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				Does anyone else find themselves automatically stabbing the key into the left (or right) side of the dash when they get in another car? 
			
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			11-13-2015, 11:34 AM
			
			
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			11-13-2015, 02:09 PM
			
			
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			11-13-2015, 02:19 PM
			
			
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				I knew that. 
 
Now what I don't know, why are our pedals hinged to the floor while most cars are top hinged. 
			
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Early Porsches used a steel cable (some with pulleys) for the clutch and throttle.  Since the motor was behind the driver, hinging the pedals from the floor simplified cable routing.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Early Porsches used a steel cable (some with pulleys) for the clutch and throttle.  Since the motor was behind the driver, hinging the pedals from the floor simplified cable routing. 
			
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Makes sense... How about BMW though?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				(And thus, even though the modern -- starting with our 986 Boxsters -- water-cooled Porsches don't share any parts with the earlier air cooled models, they are still both Porsches.) 
			
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Not so. 3 words. Porsche Mezger Blocks.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2015, 05:52 AM
			
			
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				I always thought that it was on the left so that if you crashed on the track the marshall could reach in and shut off the car. 
			
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Race cars all have a clearly marked exterior kill switch. They use that. Not the ignition.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2015, 05:55 AM
			
			
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			If you read old Porsche history books, you'll see it has nothing to do with the old Le Mans start. But that's a great story to tell. Porsche has simply stated, that's just the side they put the ignition switch on. Almost weekly, I try to start my Ford Explorer with the push button on the left. Duuuuuuu.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			11-17-2015, 06:43 PM
			
			
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			Here it is straight from Porsche. This is the quick start guide to a 2014 Cayenne: 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2015, 06:54 PM
			
			
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				Here it is straight from Porsche. This is the quick start guide to a 2014 Cayenne: 
  
			
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That's from the guys in Marketing. The history books say otherwise. But it's a good story.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Lemans running start days I heard. Could start the car with left hand and shift with right hand. Course there is that damn steering wheel teeth maybe?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-18-2015, 09:14 AM
			
			
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				Wow, this is Porsche 101.   Races used to start with the drivers running to get to their car 
& jump in to start the engine. Turn key with left hand & shift with right hand. 
			
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What I never understood about this why a racing had an ignition key rather than an ignition switch. Did all racing cars need ignition keys or just sports cars?
 
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