04-25-2006, 07:50 PM
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BINGO Mach Schnell!
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04-26-2006, 03:58 AM
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It was a Z06 against the 997 S. Thats not exactly a fair comparison as the 997S is more on the same level as the C6-C7 is not the Z06 model.
The new 911 GT3 makes 415whp N/A from a 3.8L motor. It would walk the Z06 around the track and did on top gear quite nicely and by a pretty large margin too. Granted their track is shorter with lap times in the 1.25's for those cars vs. around 2 seconds for Laguna Seca it was still a large margin.
The Z06 is fast yes, but honestly it's just not that impressive because they use 7L to make 500hp, that barbaric. I can make 500hp with a 20L engine and put it in a boat, that doesn't mean its a sports car. Put a Chevy's best 3.8L motor in the Vette and see what happens lol... Or let Porsche make a 7L engine and again see what happens.
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04-26-2006, 05:49 AM
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Another good point. Anybody can keep bolting in larger and larger engines .
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'05 987 Basalt Black/Sand Beige
5 spd, 18" wheels
AH-64 Apache
RC-12 Guardrail
RC-7 Crazy Hawk
"If the wings are traveling faster than
the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter--
and therefore, unsafe" --Unknown
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04-26-2006, 06:49 AM
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Yeah, and anyone can keep pushing the price of their cars up and up.
Face it, dollar for dollar, the z06 will walk anything Porsche can throw at it. Its a damn fine car, as is the 911. I just get annoyed when the C6 is slammed without any regard to the fine car and peformance bargain it is.
Believe me, if I have 45K, I am NOT buying a Boxster. That is just me.
And regarding your driver stereotypes, don't get me started.
Remember, I sell Porsches and Corvettes.
Both marques attract there lumps.
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04-26-2006, 07:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucelee
Yeah, and anyone can keep pushing the price of their cars up and up.
Face it, dollar for dollar, the z06 will walk anything Porsche can throw at it. Its a damn fine car, as is the 911. I just get annoyed when the C6 is slammed without any regard to the fine car and peformance bargain it is.
Believe me, if I have 45K, I am NOT buying a Boxster. That is just me.
And regarding your driver stereotypes, don't get me started.
Remember, I sell Porsches and Corvettes.
Both marques attract there lumps.
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In 2 years I will own a white C6 Z06. Nuff said!
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04-26-2006, 08:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brucelee
Face it, dollar for dollar, the z06 will walk anything Porsche can throw at it. Its a damn fine car, as is the 911. I just get annoyed when the C6 is slammed without any regard to the fine car and peformance bargain it is.
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I hear where you are coming from but simple fact remains that on paper where dollar for dollar matters the vette is cheaper more hp faster 1/4 etc.. In day to day life your still left with Cavalier quality interior and exterior parts. Overall the quality of a Vette is low, the materials used are crappy and the feeling of the car is heavy, awkward, and the trannies suck poo. If your willing to live with that then it will be a faster car dollar for dollar.
If you measure two cars together with the same stats, GT3 vs. Z06 the GT3 is clearly better at everything. It is more expensive yes, but it's also a Porsche and not a Cavalier with a V8 in it.
I just couldn't be happy with the low overall quality in the Vette. I have driven some Z06's and they are just too klunky and junky for me. I'd spend the extra on something faster and more refined.
And don't compare the GTR cars to Porsche's racing initative. GM spends 6x as much money in that series as porsche does. We all know money wins races.... Take Porsche's cars and GM's money and guess what would happen?
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04-26-2006, 09:06 AM
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I have the opportunity to compare my 987S to a C6 pretty much every day. That car kicks my ass, but the driver admits that he has a hard time really using the performance of the car. It doesn't instill the confidence you'd expect it to when you look at the numbers.
Other than that, he's a bit bummed about the interior quality, and so am I. The oil pump seizing at 6000 miles and subsequent treatment by GM didn't help his impression of GM either.
Fast cars, but not nearly as much of a driver's car as a porsche. Belongs on a track.
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04-26-2006, 09:23 AM
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Geez you guys are really bumming me out with this talk of Porsches sucking compared to Corvettes. I guess all the "looks" the boxsters get and the " Damn that is a nice looking car" doesn't account for anything anymore. In my area of town, Vettes are very common place just like Mustangs. I bought mine because of its uniqueness, performance and its beauty. I went out a couple of nights ago in it with the top down. I went to go pick up some dinner and actually got 2 compliments from other drivers about how nice my car was all within a half hour. I know it isn't a popularity contest but it does feel nice when someone appreciates your car, I know I do.
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04-26-2006, 09:14 AM
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The Z06 marks the first time possibly ever that I would take the Chevy interior over the 997 one. Man you don't know how long I thought it would be before I would ever say that.
In the past the vette interiors reminded me of rental cars. Not anymore.
The 911 interior looks like I'm sitting in an SUV and not a 'pure' sports car at all, and that steering wheel looks it came from a VW beetle! And don't get me started on the front end that looks down right feminine.
The Z06 spanked the 997S for sure, but how much does that 997 (as tested) cost? it was out handled, out braked, out powered, a clean sweep.
EVO the Brittish magazine did a 996 GT3 match up vs. the ZO6 and they weren't of the opinion that the $100,000 GT3 was superior to the ZO6 by any stretch.
They (Yes Europeans) complained that the GT3 was way too nervous and twitchy vs. the fast right out of the box Z06. From a performance stand point, people seem to influenced by heritage and prestiege when what matters at the end of the day is your lap time. They don't give out trophies for best looking car at LeMans.
Rail,
as far as Vegas Call girls and $10 street walking hookers is concerned, They both whores.
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