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Happy to have anoher one of these done..
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Just in time for Fireworks on the 4th!
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Well tomorrow I drop my car off to Jake !!! I'm so close I can taste it :D .
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Wow. What a cool project. Can't wait to see and hear your first thoughts about the new motor.
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Are you going to post a dyno sheet for us to drool over?
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Then the copycats just lie and say they make the same power, even though they don't even have a dyno, and haven't even tested their combinations. It happens all the time. |
Jake, I get it but a bummer anyways. We are all just excited to see the results.
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I can't wait to hear how this turns out. Will the redline be increased on this engine or left as stock?
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I would think the new owner would want an independent dyno after spending that kind of $$...just to know what he got!
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The owner will get all the dyno results, of course. I have 3 dynes here, 2 engine dynes, and a chassis dyno. I will have 3 different sets of plots from this car, since I repaired the engine thats currently in the car last year (nothing wrong with it today).
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No, "tuners" won't tell you this, because they aren't internists and they have no comprehension of the mechanical limitations of these engines. We love them, they blow up lots of lifters and keep our schedule filled with the fruits of their labors. In a few months this engine will see my L3 cams and even higher performance valve springs, along with my modified tensioners. At that point we may decide to increase the rev limit a few hundred RPM beyond stock. If so, it'll also get my higher performance lifter package. The car has been dropped off at the shop as of a few minutes ago. The engine is being moved from my clean room at the Research Facility to the main shop on Monday, and the transformation of the vehicle will begin. Here's how the engine stands right now... http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1436470853.jpg |
Jake....is that a 308 in the window? Ferraris too?
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I'm as curious as anyone as to what the motor is going to put down on the dyno. But that really is only 5 minutes of bragging rights. To me its how will the car drive,perform,behave ? That is more important to me. When I originally purchased this vehicle from Jake he provided a dyno chart as a baseline for me. He knows I like records and he didn't have to do that. When Jake and I started talking about this build we talked several scenarios and each scenario I was going to be provided dyno charts. As Jake stated we are going to assemble the engine with all the high performance goodies minus his camshafts. He will dyno the engine and then hand the car over to me. I'll drive it for several months/miles and bring it back. Cams will be pulled and the in house built performance cams will go in. Again another dyno run and I will be provided the data. This scenario really benefits both parties and not many shops would be willing to do this. I have no plans to go to another dyno to see if Jake is telling the truth. For one thing I've known Jake for quite a while and trust him completely. Second you can dyno a car one week and gets results x and a week later on another dyno get results y . Big deal so what. The proof will be in how it drives in real world conditions. My butt dyno will tell me pretty quick how she performs :D.
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I've had a dyno for 20 years, and I'll tell you now, that its not everything. Big peak numbers mean very little if the area under the curve sucks. I grade my engines on average TQ and HP under the curve, rather than peak power. To most shops, the worst tool they can buy is a dyno, because they start shooting for big peak numbers, and to achieve them, they'll leave everything else on the table and not even know it.
As technology gets better and better, people get dumber and dumber, and put our less and less. The art of engine building is one of the last true mechanical challenges left, and while technology can be employed to make a better engine, the human brain must stay engaged at all times. Yes, thats my 308 GTSi in my last post. I also have a 512TR. In the first pic you can see the Weissach brown 911 SC that used to belong to rfuerst911sc :-) I also do ferrari work, but only when someone wants to think way outside the box. http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1436532267.jpg http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1436532305.jpg |
TR is a fantastic machine for the money these days. did you know that the side slats are removable? take them off and suddenly the car looks 30 years younger ...
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--M-4tEXlR--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18qx47c3z2br4jpg.jpg sorry for hijack! |
I love seeing my 911sc in that company of cars. There are times i miss her but then i take the boxster out for a drive and i'm ok again.
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even Sonny says oh no you don't! http://roa.h-cdn.co/assets/14/52/980...3219-vice3.jpg Anyone have some spare change? |
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yet another hijack! good luck with the engine - no way you won't be happy; i'd say we're all green with envy. |
^ that 512TR is worth every Lira. There are probably barely 1,500 high quality condition US versions for sale. 23 years old and it still stops you dead in your tracks. Not bad for a $160K car (adjusted for inflation). That won't even buy you the new GT3 RS.
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Yep... I used some foresight when buying these two... I have a line on a 512M that needs an engine rebuild... Its next.
The 308 is going up for sale soon. |
Disappointed, but understand about the dyno. Your data, your call.
Still interested in engine porn. Please post up lots of pic's! |
Are there any updates?
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Hey everyone I thought I would post an update. Unfortunately just as we were making progress I was diagnosed with a life issue. Not going to go into details but I have Jake temporarily on hold and he has agreed to do so. The build will still take place but won't be completed until the end of the year. I'm on a medical path that will correct/eliminate the issue but it will take a few months. I'm disappointed but you have to have your priorities in place when something like this happens. As Arnold says " I'll be back ! " :D.
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Sorry to hear about your health. Winter will be here shortly anyway. Gives you more time to get it done.
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I hope the helth issue turns out well.
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I am ready to finish it!
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I wish you a full recovery and many years of good health.
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Best of luck and speedy recovery.
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Wishing you and your family the best!
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Your health is everything. Hang tough and get better! Thoughts and prayers are with you.
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Richard,
Wishing you the best! Like Woody says, winter is all most here. Gives you lot's of time to plan more updates! |
The well wishes are greatly appreciated thank you. Per the medical experts I will be fine just have to follow their guidance and expertise.
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I'm still alive ! :D This coming Thursday I undergo the medical procedure and if all goes as planned will start the road to recovery. Basic timeline Jake will get turned back on the beginning of November and I'll have the car back as a Christmas present to myself !!! :cheers:
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Thank you for letting us know, you will be in my thoughts and prayers:cheers:
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That'll be a great Christmas gift..... health and the Boxster build!
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Wishing you all the best ! Like Woodsy says, winter time is all most here.
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And a Merry Christmas it will be!! Good health, and a new toy!! Here's to a speedy recovery!!
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