03-26-2015, 03:39 PM
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Teaching stick in a boxster?
Well I just learned myself last summer. Now I can shift really well despite no luck at all with attempts to heel toe. Anyways, the misses has expressed want to learn stick. (A keeper in my book) Would it seem that the boxster would be easy to learn in, I learned myself fairly easy, but I never had anything else to compare to?
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03-26-2015, 03:50 PM
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I have driven dozens of manual trans vehicles & consider a Box 1 of the hardest. Clutches are not cheap either!
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03-26-2015, 04:47 PM
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I would say that the box is not an easy clutch to learn on. Just my opinion
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03-26-2015, 04:49 PM
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It's not. If you have a knack for it (like my niece) no problem, flawless, but my daughter? Thought the engine was going to get jerked out onto the ground behind the car.
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03-26-2015, 04:59 PM
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Tried it
With my Grandson (18), I let him drive my E36 first.....or attempt to...total failure and the E36 is the easiest stick to drive I have ever seen...no way he is touching my Boxster
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03-26-2015, 05:02 PM
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Just go buy a thousand dollar disposable economy car to teach her in. You wouldn't hand a beginner musician a Stradivarius, right?
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03-26-2015, 05:13 PM
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Beginner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CHRISP357
Just go buy a thousand dollar disposable economy car to teach her in. You wouldn't hand a beginner musician a Stradivarius, right?
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Nothing is too good for her, yeah, the box isn't even a close second. In fact, not even a consideration.
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Last edited by Jamesp; 03-26-2015 at 05:17 PM.
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03-26-2015, 05:14 PM
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There Is No Substitute.
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I agree with everyone else, the 986 clutch is not as forgiving as a beater car and much more costly to replace. I also think it is a lot stiffer than many other cars. I learned to drive a stick in an beater Saturn, and it was much more forgiving.
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03-26-2015, 05:17 PM
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The Boxster clutch is worse when the dual-mass flywheel has failed.
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03-26-2015, 06:21 PM
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Was worried that I'm the only one not as good as I want to be in a stick Box!
Have driven sticks in most every car I have ever owned and I'm often looking for the "feel" of the clutch engagement.
Maybe it's the mid engine configuration.
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03-26-2015, 06:27 PM
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Heavy
My Boxster has a very heavy clutch, only thing I have felt heavier is my old 1978 FJ40......anything that can be done about that ?
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03-26-2015, 06:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pdwight
My Boxster has a very heavy clutch, only thing I have felt heavier is my old 1978 FJ40......anything that can be done about that ?
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Mine was heavy when I first got it. Put in a new clutch, IMS and RMS. Almost as light as a Honda clutch now. Well not that light, but you get the idea.
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03-26-2015, 06:36 PM
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Thanks for the info. Makes me feel better about struggling some at first myself. I may put her in a parking lot and see if she can get it within a few stalls and go from there haha.
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03-26-2015, 07:41 PM
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The power assisted clutch in a 996 Twin Turbo is the worse clutch I've driven. It seems as if the friction point changes slightly as the car warms up.
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03-26-2015, 07:43 PM
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The carrera gt is notorious for one of the most difficult to operate clutches in any car, Id love to try and tackle it.
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03-26-2015, 07:43 PM
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Its not just the Boxster clutch that takes a beating, I'd be more worried about the 1st to 2nd synchro rings & transmission abuse..... I don't think the Porsche engineers designed the car for learners.
But you are in an precarious situation Jakey boy - if you have already said "yes" to the missus and now say "no" because of the perceived damage, you are in for a lot of potential pouting lips & cold shoulder.
I cant tell you how I know!!
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03-26-2015, 07:44 PM
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Our last stick was an MX5 - it was definately easier than the Box. I put it down to the lighter flywheel. It make me cringe when I get the rattle when moving off! Just have to remember to give it a bit more gas. I just figure on a new clutch in about 50.000 miles!
If your clutch is stiff it usually means it's time for a new one.
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03-26-2015, 07:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGJake111
The carrera gt is notorious for one of the most difficult to operate clutches in any car, Id love to try and tackle it.
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Trissl Sports Cars has a pristine Carrera GT here is town....I would love to drive it as well....but a fat chance of that
Trissl Sports Cars - Buying and Selling Used Porsches
But I am going to attend Uberfest April 10 and drool over the inventory
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03-26-2015, 08:00 PM
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Jake, here's a good exercise for both of you: Teach her how to drive a stick in her father's car.
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03-26-2015, 08:08 PM
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There Is No Substitute.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Tinker
But you are in an precarious situation Jakey boy - if you have already said "yes" to the missus and now say "no" because of the perceived damage, you are in for a lot of potential pouting lips & cold shoulder.
I cant tell you how I know!!
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I cannot agree with this enough. :ah:
Jake, let us know how it goes! 
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