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Old 11-30-2014, 12:32 PM   #1
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First off, the source of the debris must be found. If it isn't, and you just assume its the IMSB, and retrofit it, the chances of the replacement bearing failing are insanely high. Why? Because you have debris suspended in the life blood (oil) of the engine and the smaller and lighter it is, the easier it travels everywhere throughout the engine, and creates a loss of life as it travels through the engine.

What color is the debris? Do you have photos of it? Have you quantified that none of this has already made it past the filter by doing my "finger test? If metal laden oil has made it by the filter, the engine has been permanently damaged. The wonderful design of the stock oil filter housing allows this to occur.

Again, you must quantify where the wear is rooted and address is before any IMS Retrofit is applied, or any other intervention. I spend hours on this topic in my classes and it amazes me how many shops will just throw a part at the engine in hopes of fixing the root of the problem, when they really have no idea what the failure chain is really made up of. With this you must not guess, and you must cease vehicle operation until you have addressed where the debris is coming form, as well as ensuring what the collateral damages may be.
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Old 12-07-2014, 07:07 AM   #2
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Old 12-07-2014, 08:18 AM   #3
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As the ex owner of a 2001 base I had the same thing happen. Initially got a few chrome like shavings in the oil filter and oil. They were not metallic. Later got lots of green bits in the oil filter followed by the code P1341. Camshaft deviation out of tolerance on one side.

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Old 12-07-2014, 06:43 PM   #4
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German Autotech in Waterloo. Very knowledgeable Porsche mechanic. Great google reviews. Have used him for my PPI and some suspension work and I know Boxstersteve on here had his IMS done through them.

Good luck! Hope it's nothing serious.
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Old 12-07-2014, 07:04 PM   #5
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First off, the source of the debris must be found. If it isn't, and you just assume its the IMSB, and retrofit it, the chances of the replacement bearing failing are insanely high. Why? Because you have debris suspended in the life blood (oil) of the engine and the smaller and lighter it is, the easier it travels everywhere throughout the .
Listen to this advice. Open bearing is susceptible to this.....
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Old 12-07-2014, 09:02 PM   #6
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This is too late for the Op but:
I had a somewhat similar situation recently - but way more severe. The quantity of debris was greater.
The entire engine was clean and debris-free because by chance an LN spin- on filter kit had been fitted before the problem started. I have since dismantled the engine completely -down to the very last nut,bolt and O ring. I even dismantled every lifter! No debris anywhere other than the GM filter and in the bottom of the pan and the magnetic sump plug. The engine has 90k miles.
The reason is the LN filter screens 100% of the oil flow.The OEM filter does not. So why don't more of us fit a 100% filter kit +mag drain plug? It is cheap and an easy diy job.The IMS is not the big problem, it is the damage done by the debris that causes the huge expense.

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This is too late for the Op but:
I had a somewhat similar situation recently - but way more severe. The quantity of debris was greater.
The entire engine was clean and debris-free because by chance an LN spin- on filter kit had been fitted before the problem started. I have since dismantled the engine completely -down to the very last nut,bolt and O ring. I even dismantled every lifter! No debris anywhere other than the GM filter and in the bottom of the pan and the magnetic sump plug. The engine has 90k miles.
The reason is the LN filter screens 100% of the oil flow.The OEM filter does not. So why don't more of us fit a 100% filter kit +mag drain plug? It is cheap and an easy diy job.The IMS is not the big problem, it is the damage done by the debris that causes the huge expense.
but how do you unroll the filter now?
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